You might not remember me .....but I'm the guy who used your 2# pulley check the dyno differences in my sig.

Finally got my 4# pulley .....then sent my micro tuner back to superchips for 6 weeks to get it to work.....ETC ETC. I sent that 2# back to ya.


Mike I was at Mike Murillo shop the other day and he hooked up a predator to my truck to see what parameters he could read, Anyway he could not read the fuel curves but it said my microtuner was set @ 19 degrees.

Do they all come at that setting or is the timing setting regional.
Is it possible to send it to Superchips and have them set a specific timing # ?

 

I just noticed this in on your website:o

http://www.troyerperformance.com/cgi...catalogno=9100

Is superchips doing any upgrade deals..........I have had my 1715 working since Dec.03

 

Hi Red 92,

With regard to the timing in the 1715 Micro Tuner - nobody can tell you what the Micro Tuner is "set to" - nor could anyone ever just plug in a Diablo Predator and find anything out about any aspect of our tuning like fueling, or the MAF's transfer function, etc.

The Micro Tuner is not "set to" any one specific timing parameter.

So no, it's not "set to 19 degrees." He just plugged in and saw how much timing was being delivered at *one* point - that's all.

The actual amount of total delivered timing from the programs in the 1715 Micro Tuner, whether it's for a Lightning or any other vehicle, varies based on many things, all of which is far too detailed to get into here. Briefly, the timing you get from idle thru redline in 1st gear on one truck could well be different from another seemingly identical truck under those exact same conditions, and in the exact same mechanical/modification configuration. It could be more in 1st gear than what you see in 2nd gear at those same rpms, which could be higher than what you'll see at 3rd gear at those same rpms, and so on, etc., etc. It's proper tuning, to allow the PCM to *continue* to respond properly to ever-increasing load.

Load varies based on many things, from throttle opening, to rpm, to what gear the vehicle is in, to whether it's going up a grade, etc., etc. Even at the exact same rpm, gear & TP, load can still vary significantly, and thus the tuning may need to vary as well - based on load - so that is how we set up the PCM, to allow it to *continue* to respond to ever-varying load scenarios.

At some load points, it's perfectly safe to run 20 degrees of timing with a 6 PSI pulley on good pump premium - but at other load points, it may be safe to run only 12 degrees - it's setting up the load tables so the PCM can continue to respond properly to ever-increasing load - there is no such thing as one number that the Lightning tuning in the Micro Tuner is "set to."

With regard to our custom tuning....................you probably have a misunderstanding there and don't even know it, as things have changed some time back in that regard, and Ill explain...........

Superchips has nothing to do with the custom programs that we provide in the new custom-tune capable Micro Tuner - it's not one of their "standard' products that they ship to us already programmed & ready to use - *we* have to do all that work. So no, there are no trade in deals from Superchips - in fact, there never have been.

Now *we* will sometimes offer trade-up deals on *standard* Superchips products - like when someone has purchased a traditional Superchip module new from us and wants to get into the standard 1715 Micro Tuner - if that was what you wanted to do, sure, we'd be more than happy to try to work something out with you!

Superchips doesn't do custom tuning on FoMoCo vehicles any more, they stopped doing that months ago. So the new custom tune-capable Micro Tuners are not supplied to us ready-to-go - they arrive here blank, completely empty - and then *we* have to make the programs completely in-house, from scratch.

If you want a way to reduce the cost of having us provide you with a set of 3 world-class custom tunes in the new custom-tune capable Micro Tuner, your best bet is to list your Micro Tuner for sale in the F-150 Online Classified Ads section - people are always looking for bargains from previous owners there, so you can do yourself and the next owner quite a big favor that will help both of you out - and use those proceeds to offset the cost of having us do the 3 custom tune setup in the new custom-tune capable Micro Tuner.

 

Thats what I was looking for, thanks Mike. I would hope you would be able to squeeze a little more out of my tune

 

Hi Red 92,

You're very welcome, as always!

I love doing the in-depth custom tuning, not just because we can always make more power & get more performance gain, but also because of the improvements we can make to overall driveability, and the far greater detail & control we have in that kind of tune.

And just so we're clear, I hope I didn't give the wrong impression in my last post - MM is a well-known cat, a long-time FFW drag racer who is no "dummy" by any means, so I hope I didn't give the wrong impression. It's just that the timing info he gave you, while no doubt that is indeed exactly what the motor was doing, is only relative to whatever conditions the motor was under when that info was scanned - for example, it could potentially be that same amount of timing all the way thru 1st gear at full-throttle - but be less by the time you hit say, 4000+ rpm at WOT in 3rd gear, where the calculated load on the motor is higher, etc.

It's always good to see you again, and do give us a call whenever you get a chance - I'll spend some time going over with you in detail just exactly what's going on in your current tune. as well as what more we can do via the in=depth custom tune, what you can expect to gain, other options, etc. The kind of detail-oriented person you are, I''ll enjoy going over all of that with you.

Have fun,