Superchip & Hypertech Tested....
Not only do I NOT need 93 octane tuning for REAL WORLD data, why in the world would anyone deside on which chip to purchase because it has better gains on an octane you wouldn't run anyway.
There are a few reasons why the Hypertech might have been generating more power than the SuperChips. There was a significant time difference between the two runs you made and even mild changes in temperature and humidity can make big differences in power. It could also be some quirk about your engine that the HyperTech understands and the SuperChips doesn't. The only way to be sure is to Dyno it but it probably just isn't that important.
The fact is if you are happy with the HyperTech programming then why not just install a shift kit and continue to use the HyperTech? That way you get the best of both worlds.
-Don
I've used both the Hypertech PPIII and Superchip Microtuner. Both are good Products, IMHO.
I ran the 87 tune with the Hypertech in my 318 Dodge Ram with very good "seat of the pants" results and [contrary to the myth] saw gains throughout the powerband; not only at WOT. Mileage really jumped up also. My 318 was prone to pinging with the PPIII, so I chose to stay with the 87 tune since it met my needs for towing, etc.
I am currently running the Microtuner in my 5.4 on the Perf setting with 93 octane fuel. I will probably drop down to the Tow Perf setting during the summer so I can tow. I am also very satisfied with the Superchip unit and I'm looking forward to further mods to enhance the affects of the Tuner (exhaust / intake / electric fans).
I know the comparisons I have shown are "apples-to-oranges" since the engines are COMPLETELY different. Nevertheless, both units performed as advertised, IMHO.
Cheers,
JPTEX
I ran the 87 tune with the Hypertech in my 318 Dodge Ram with very good "seat of the pants" results and [contrary to the myth] saw gains throughout the powerband; not only at WOT. Mileage really jumped up also. My 318 was prone to pinging with the PPIII, so I chose to stay with the 87 tune since it met my needs for towing, etc.
I am currently running the Microtuner in my 5.4 on the Perf setting with 93 octane fuel. I will probably drop down to the Tow Perf setting during the summer so I can tow. I am also very satisfied with the Superchip unit and I'm looking forward to further mods to enhance the affects of the Tuner (exhaust / intake / electric fans).
I know the comparisons I have shown are "apples-to-oranges" since the engines are COMPLETELY different. Nevertheless, both units performed as advertised, IMHO.
Cheers,
JPTEX
hoseclamp -
How dare you post your opinion? Only certain people are allowed to post their opinion without being crucified, and you have not earned that right yet.
Now, go do 1 oil change, 1 tire rotation and 1 chassis lube on your truck as penance...
How dare you post your opinion? Only certain people are allowed to post their opinion without being crucified, and you have not earned that right yet.
Now, go do 1 oil change, 1 tire rotation and 1 chassis lube on your truck as penance...

If you bought a chip to run on 87 octane you wasted quite a bit of money.
If shift patterns are for you a shift kit is only 90 bucks. It will run fine on company bought fuel. Maybe you should buy some fans to get better mileage, save them money at the pump.
I would also like to note that I've never had any luck with a Hypertech product. If you like it, keep it. I'll take dyno data anyday over seat of the pants. My *** can't graph Hp/torque curves. I'll keep my superchip, and I'll be sure to wave when I'm driving by.
If shift patterns are for you a shift kit is only 90 bucks. It will run fine on company bought fuel. Maybe you should buy some fans to get better mileage, save them money at the pump.
I would also like to note that I've never had any luck with a Hypertech product. If you like it, keep it. I'll take dyno data anyday over seat of the pants. My *** can't graph Hp/torque curves. I'll keep my superchip, and I'll be sure to wave when I'm driving by.
I feel if you bought a chip torun 91-93 octane you have wasted your money. You first buy the chip then the more expensive fuel, i thought that one would be obvious. This is the first case that I have read where a person has actually compared the two products. So I believe I'm going with the guy who has compared the two products rather than jump on the bandwagon and just say that Superchips are the best, because everybody else says so.
Personally if I buy a chip I am looking for noticeable power gains, not the approval of the other users of this forum.
If anyone actually has dyno data for the same vehicle, same dyno, same fuel, I would really like to the this. And I do not mean dyno data from an advertisement.
Personally if I buy a chip I am looking for noticeable power gains, not the approval of the other users of this forum.
If anyone actually has dyno data for the same vehicle, same dyno, same fuel, I would really like to the this. And I do not mean dyno data from an advertisement.
Last edited by tbbailey; Jan 28, 2004 at 11:48 AM.
Diablo
What engine what Diablo? Is this a custom burned chip?
I'm interested in making some performance mods on my 2003 4.6L. Thats why I asked if anyone had compared dyno results.
I'd like to know you're setup, my dad has a chip in his f-250 powerstroke and it is awsome. And I was also kinda leaning that way with the chip even though i know the results wont be as great with a gas engine as they were with the diesel.
32 horsepower gain sounds great: I'm interested!
Thanks for the info
I'm interested in making some performance mods on my 2003 4.6L. Thats why I asked if anyone had compared dyno results.
I'd like to know you're setup, my dad has a chip in his f-250 powerstroke and it is awsome. And I was also kinda leaning that way with the chip even though i know the results wont be as great with a gas engine as they were with the diesel.
32 horsepower gain sounds great: I'm interested!
Thanks for the info
ok
03 4x4 5.4 3.55 auto
diablosport chip
magnaflow catback 15609
mac ai intake
220 rwhp
300ft lbs tq
mustang loaded roller dyno chassis
automatic, transfer case and fact the rollers aren't free wheeling these numbers are higher say like a dynojet dyno- also i had to send my chip back to get speed limiter raised- only would go to 4300 rpms in drive before it hit limiter- i'm sure there's more power to be had from 4300- 5300 rpms-phil
will report new dyno 3's next week
diablosport chip
magnaflow catback 15609
mac ai intake
220 rwhp
300ft lbs tq
mustang loaded roller dyno chassis
automatic, transfer case and fact the rollers aren't free wheeling these numbers are higher say like a dynojet dyno- also i had to send my chip back to get speed limiter raised- only would go to 4300 rpms in drive before it hit limiter- i'm sure there's more power to be had from 4300- 5300 rpms-phil
will report new dyno 3's next week
hoseclamp,
When all is said and done it doesn't matter what you use as long as you are happy.
I reread your first post and have a question. Did you notice the rpm when you did your testing? Maybe the hypertec unlocks the torque converter to make more power. If the Microtuner keeps the converter locked above a set speed it will not multiply the torque and it will therefor send less power to the wheels. This is all theory and only Mike or Superchips would be able to answer this.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
When all is said and done it doesn't matter what you use as long as you are happy.
I reread your first post and have a question. Did you notice the rpm when you did your testing? Maybe the hypertec unlocks the torque converter to make more power. If the Microtuner keeps the converter locked above a set speed it will not multiply the torque and it will therefor send less power to the wheels. This is all theory and only Mike or Superchips would be able to answer this.
Regards
Jean Marc Chartier
All testing was done with converter locked up. I kept a close eye on the tach and speedo throughout. The first three hills & flat sections were all done from 1,600rpm (80mk/h) to roughly 2.800rpm (140km/h), in OD. The fourth hill was 1,400rpm (50km/h) to 2,500rpm (90km/h), in drive.
Sometimes when rushing it I'll be above 3,500rpm when passing, but most of the time I'm OD, and I don't want my truck downshifting all the time on the hills. Lots of hills here. Stock, the truck would downshift 12 times between here and the next town, now it only downshifts once, on a steep grade. I'll need diesel power, or a V-10 to do that one in OD.
If it was too close to tell, I'd run the Superchip since the tranny programming was very good. Before the Hypertech 87 tuning it downshifted on 3 hills from here to the next town, and I'd rather have a bit more jam to hold the hill than a quick downshift to get back up to speed.
Sometimes when rushing it I'll be above 3,500rpm when passing, but most of the time I'm OD, and I don't want my truck downshifting all the time on the hills. Lots of hills here. Stock, the truck would downshift 12 times between here and the next town, now it only downshifts once, on a steep grade. I'll need diesel power, or a V-10 to do that one in OD.
If it was too close to tell, I'd run the Superchip since the tranny programming was very good. Before the Hypertech 87 tuning it downshifted on 3 hills from here to the next town, and I'd rather have a bit more jam to hold the hill than a quick downshift to get back up to speed.



