Hypertech PPIII
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Hypertech PPIII
I'm new to this website. Just purchased a 2002 F150 with the 5.4 Triton. I have past experience with the Hypertech PPIII in a Dodge, which worked OK. Will this unit work on the 5.4?
Hypertech's PR info quotes 45HP and 62Ft Lbs of torque on the 2001 5.4. When I called then about the 2002 they said to only expect 10-20HP and 25Ft Lbs of torque for the 2002. What gives? Thought the 2001 and the 2002 were the same?
Any alternatives that will generate bigger numbers?
Hypertech's PR info quotes 45HP and 62Ft Lbs of torque on the 2001 5.4. When I called then about the 2002 they said to only expect 10-20HP and 25Ft Lbs of torque for the 2002. What gives? Thought the 2001 and the 2002 were the same?
Any alternatives that will generate bigger numbers?
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From: Virginia
Hi JPTEX,
You noticed that too, eh?
You can't get a 45 HP or 57 lbs/ft. or 52 lbs./ft of torque peak gain on these "regular" 4.6 or 5.4 non-supercharged F-150's via tuning alone.
What they told you over the phone is much more accurate - what we see with their product, best case, is about a 12 HP gain in these vehicles, so when they tell you it's within a range of "10-20," that range is within what we've seen.
There is no tuning product that is going to give your 2002 5.4 F-150 a 45 HP gain - that isn't going to happen from tuning alone.
However, we *can* deliver a larger power gain in the Superchips Micro Tuner, which is available on our web site at www.TroyerPerformance.com - click on "Shop" once the home pages loads, & then you'll see the Superchips section - you'll want to read up on our Part# 1715 there.
Also, if you'd like to go over this in more detail, find out just what really is & isn't possible via powertrain programming/tuning in these vehicles, please feel free to give us a call & we'll be happy to go over that with you, in detail, so you can give it some thought before making your decision.
Congrats on your new truck, & best of luck whatever you decide!
You noticed that too, eh?
You can't get a 45 HP or 57 lbs/ft. or 52 lbs./ft of torque peak gain on these "regular" 4.6 or 5.4 non-supercharged F-150's via tuning alone.
What they told you over the phone is much more accurate - what we see with their product, best case, is about a 12 HP gain in these vehicles, so when they tell you it's within a range of "10-20," that range is within what we've seen.
There is no tuning product that is going to give your 2002 5.4 F-150 a 45 HP gain - that isn't going to happen from tuning alone.
However, we *can* deliver a larger power gain in the Superchips Micro Tuner, which is available on our web site at www.TroyerPerformance.com - click on "Shop" once the home pages loads, & then you'll see the Superchips section - you'll want to read up on our Part# 1715 there.
Also, if you'd like to go over this in more detail, find out just what really is & isn't possible via powertrain programming/tuning in these vehicles, please feel free to give us a call & we'll be happy to go over that with you, in detail, so you can give it some thought before making your decision.
Congrats on your new truck, & best of luck whatever you decide!
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From: Virginia
Hi divewithtom,
Don't think I've "seen" you here before, welcome to F-150 Online!
To answer your question, no, you cannot run both a Hypertech Power Programmer or the Superchips Micro Tuner *and* a performance chip at the same time - what would happen if you tried is that the PCM would simply run on the instructions inside the performance chip and ignore whatever is in it's own internal EEPROM.
The background on this is (just quickly), when you attach a performance chip to the J3 connector on any Ford EEC-IV or EEC-V PCM (computer), the PCM then in effect turns off (ignores) it's internal EEPROM's tuning instructions, and takes it's tuning instructions from the external data source (in this case, the performance chip) attached to the PCM's J3 connector. So what basically happens is that when you activate J3 by attaching the performance chip, the result is you are doing an "override" of whatever tuning instructions were inside the PCM's internal factory EEPROM - whether that is the factory program, or a performance program uploaded from a programmer or tuner - that will be overridden anytime you attach a performance chip to the Ford PCM. So the PCM would *ignore* the changes to it's internal EEPROM chip, and instead run on the instructions in the external data source attached to it's J3 connector - the performance chip.
So no, you cannot use both a programmer or Micro Tuner *and* a performance chip at the same time.
Don't think I've "seen" you here before, welcome to F-150 Online!
To answer your question, no, you cannot run both a Hypertech Power Programmer or the Superchips Micro Tuner *and* a performance chip at the same time - what would happen if you tried is that the PCM would simply run on the instructions inside the performance chip and ignore whatever is in it's own internal EEPROM.
The background on this is (just quickly), when you attach a performance chip to the J3 connector on any Ford EEC-IV or EEC-V PCM (computer), the PCM then in effect turns off (ignores) it's internal EEPROM's tuning instructions, and takes it's tuning instructions from the external data source (in this case, the performance chip) attached to the PCM's J3 connector. So what basically happens is that when you activate J3 by attaching the performance chip, the result is you are doing an "override" of whatever tuning instructions were inside the PCM's internal factory EEPROM - whether that is the factory program, or a performance program uploaded from a programmer or tuner - that will be overridden anytime you attach a performance chip to the Ford PCM. So the PCM would *ignore* the changes to it's internal EEPROM chip, and instead run on the instructions in the external data source attached to it's J3 connector - the performance chip.
So no, you cannot use both a programmer or Micro Tuner *and* a performance chip at the same time.