Thanks for the input Mike I appreciate it! , I'll call soon when the ol tax return comes in .




Keep on truckin'

 

Anytime!

 

Mike, I can't wait till the parts come in so I can start wrenching in the garage! Thanks for help and nice talking to you about JDM and LAroccas and such. Do you happen to have a tracking number for me so I can see what's going on? Also I remember reading on here somewhere about some kind of a Act that protects you from installing aftremarket parts on our trucks that are still under warranty. What are the limitations on what we can and can't do when under warranty? What is the name of this ACT? Any or all info will be interesting to learn about! And I'll be doing business with you again in a few weeks for maybe my suspension lift when I decide which one to go with? That is if you deal with lift kits cause I know you really only do lowerd trucks etc. Mike if you want you can always E-mail me with a tracking number or just to drop a line! I'll have to get some photos together of the mustang and truck and post them for all to see. Here's my E-mail, jessesmustang@hotmail.com

 

Hi BLU98,

I'll have to beg your forgiveness here my friend, as I can't keep up with all the screen names belonging to which real name, meaning I can't just look up your order info from your screen name here. So in terms of getting you the tracking number (or numbers as the case may be) for any shipments, you'll want to give us a call for that info. You could email us for that info too I suppose, but realistically, with our heavy email load, your parts would probably have already arrived by the time we got back to you in email with the tracking number! Calling us is really the best way to get that tracking info quickly, I'd recommend. We'll need to look up your order info under your real name & the address we're shipping to of course, & then we can track down your UPS Tracking# for your shipment, which we'll be happy to do for you, of course!

If this is JS of PA, your parts should be there on either the 24th or 25th, I don't have the tracking # here at my desk (our staff deals with all of that, so I don't have that on my machines), but I do know the order to that individual went out on the 22nd, and PA is 2-3 working days away from us. So based on that, if that is you, then it should be there Friday ideally, or by Monday at the latest. Give us a call for the tracking# to make sure though, so you can track it yourself if you want to, ok?

The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act is what you are referring to, and you can find more informaiton about that at the sema.org web site. Try this link: www.sema.org/fedleg/warranty
If that particular link isn't correct anymore, then just drill thru the sema.org web site for the info on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act and aftermarket parts & warranty info in general, it'll all be there at SEMA's site.

Talk to you soon!

 

This is in fact JS of PA! And I got the parts today(Friday), I called and got the tracking number but by that time it was already on my door step. I was really impressed on the packing job with all those newspapers! LOL! I'd rather deal with the papers then with those damn packing peanuts! They just get everywhere! All the parts look good and will install them shortly and will let you know how it all goes. If I have any questions I'll call if needed. Mike thanks for help I appreciate it and I'll be talking to you once again soon for more parts to come. Just one question, next time when I order from you can I have my order shipped to a different address but billed to my billing address? Thanks for the link too! One very happy camper, JS of PA.

 

Hey Mike, I remember reading a thread of a gut who installed dual Electric fans and he installed blue zip ties every 6 inches to make a very clean install! Anyway you replied to it thanking him for the pics he posted and said it was a nice clean install! I've been searching around and found nothing! Go figure when your looking for something you can never find it but you'll find it when you not looking for it! Can you help me find that thread that you repiled to? JS of PA.

 

Nevermind just found it without even really looking for it! Go figure! I do have one question on the instructions for the fan kit. In the instructions it says to hook the red wire to the + battery side. I really don't like the look of a wire connector on the +battery post. Is there another spot where I can hook it up to + battery source like maybe a solenoid or something? I have the Auto-X-Ray scan tool that I can use to set up the fan turn on points or I can always use my meter with the temp sensor coupling attached to it. Do you recomend using any thermally conductive silicone on the temp probs going into the rad fins for a better reading?

 

I should have ordered the Goodyear Gator back belt along with my order but I forgot to. Cause now I can heare the belt squeal when shifting since the transgo install! Can I find this belt just at performance parts stores or will I be able to find one at like maybe Napa or Kar Parts stores?

 

Hi BLU98,

OK, glad to hear UPS did their job on time so the parts got there in time for the weekend. Yeah, we hate those peanuts too, though sometimes we have to use them as well, we do try to avoid it & use recycleable newpaper instead anytime we can.

I remember the thread you are referring to with all those great pics on a very neat installation, but unfortunately I just don't remember who posted that or exactly where that thread is or the name of the thread, etc., so I can't point yoyu to it any better than just doing a search on all the posts of our electric fan kit. Try searching under the phrase "Performance Products Electric Fan Kit" & you may get lucky & not have to read thru too many posts to find it. My apologies, I really should have kept better track of that post & all those excellent photos. Those pics may be in somebody's gallery here on F-150 Online, I don't remember where the links in his post that allowed access to those photos actually pointed to. It was done by one of our earlier customers for those kits, within the first few months we started shipping them, if memory serves, and we've been shipping them for just under a year now. If you find it, please let us know & we'll save that link forever, I promise!

 

Well. I knew I should've wrote the username down! now I can't find it again go figure! Mike do you recomend a certian spark plug gap on the Denso plugs you sent me? I'm thinking somewhere around 40 or so due to the Accel coil packs and the hotter spark that will be given. Any info here? Thanks again Jesse........

 

Any other info on the other post above made by me?

 

Mike, I have a non-F150 related question that you may be able to shed some light on! We began talking about my mustang and Laroccas and everything and I was wondering if you can give me some info on how to solve a gas fume problem I'm having? Car has no emission components on it and on the gas tank vent line that orginally went to a carbon canister under the hood I now have a K&N type breather on that line instead of the orginall canister. Well I now am able to smell up my garage with gas fumes! I have no leaks or anything and was thinking if there is some sort of aftermarket part that will rid of the gas fumes. Any info on this subject or help to solve my gas fumed smelling garage? Thank god it's only pump gas and not race fuel!

 

Hi Jesse,

On a normally aspirated 4.6 with our ignition upgrade, I'd set the plug gap at .050. You don't need to squeeze it down to .040 like we do in Lightnings & other high-boost forced induction motors. Between the hotter coil packs, low-resistance plug wires & those plugs you can run that .050 gap just fine & pull strongly all the way to redline even in very humid conditions.

On your gas vapors, sounds to me like the problem is simply because you are now venting those unburned hydrocarbons into that filter/breather, which is then becoming saturated with the vapors, instead of having them be absorbed by the charcoal cannister (that's why it's there!) as per the automaker's emissions controls, so you're going to have that smell until you stop venting those unburned hydrocarbons in that manner. That carbon cannister does a far better job of absorbing those vapors, a breather like that probably will never do the job. It's really not possible to go over in any more detail without inspecting the vehicle of course, but this one sounds pretty obvious to me, you're venting the unburned hydrocarbons into a saturated filter/breather instead of them being absorbed by the charcoal cannister, thus the gasoline fumes.

I'd stop venting those vapors like that as sooner or later you may have a spark or static electricity event of some kind, & no sense taking chances.

The way this was done on *older* vehicles with little to no emission controls from the factory was that the vent line was a simple short tube that vented right on top of the gas tank to atmosphere, which wasn't much more than a heavy 1/16" in diameter to maybe 1/8" inch. No filter or anything, as the filter just traps a good bit of the vapors & becomes saturated, hence the strong smell. Normally on older cars, those fumes vent from the small tube on top of the gas tank to atmosphere as the vehicle drives down the road, and there was not much smell iin the garage, although there may be some, it wasn't as much as it can be with that filter getting saturated with those vapors. In later years, the Feds required teh automakers to no longer vent any unburned hydrocarbos to atmosphere, hence the charcoal cannisters, which started back in the 70's.

It's one thing to vent crankcase pressure with a breather, but it's a completely different matter to vent unburned hydrocarbons from the gas tank/lines/etc.

Good luck!

 

Yeah I pretty much knew that it it's not safe to vent gas fumes/unburned carbons to atmosphere with or without a breather. I'll have to find one and install it as it once was. What about Nascar, Sprint modifieds etc. what do they use? Do they use any type of canister for the carbons? Is there even such thing as an aftermarket charcoal/carbon canister? Static electricity is a serious over looked issue that many don't think about! It can even effect some of the computers in our cars/trucks. I'll go ahead and gap those plugs at 50. When I find that thread about the neat fan install I'll send you the link for that owners gallery!

 

Hi BLU98,

The issue here really isn't venting to atmosphere (though that *is* terrible for the upper atmosphere), it's your breather becoming saturated with those unburned hydrocarbons, *that* is what is causing the strong odor. On older cars, you really didn't get much smell even in the garage, as nothing was absorbing the vapors, they vented to atmosphere. At any rate, you know what to do there, get another charcoal cannister on it.

NASCAR race cars use fuel cells, so they are probably just venting to atmosphere thru the overflow vent at the back of the car, I'm guessing. Sprint Mod cars I really couldn't tell you much about, but most likely use a fuel cell as well.

Glad to see you're aware of just how dangerous static electricity can be, as that breather saturated with vapors could cause a bad situation, worst case.

Good luck!