Look out santa my tuner came to town !!!!
Hey mike what a surprise today, i came home and found my tuner in the door. SWEET !!!!! i got 1/8th of a tank of 87, will be filling it up thursday with 94. then driving it around a few miles and then the Hook up.
I want to thank you and all your staff for the help i have gotten so far.
Merry X-mas All !!!!!!!!!!!
I want to thank you and all your staff for the help i have gotten so far.
Merry X-mas All !!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by firedude26; Dec 24, 2002 at 09:34 PM.
Hi Y2k,
Actually, we leave that up to the individual driver's discretion most of the time, unless there is a specific reason for us to require a signature, such as due to different credit card company policies, or a specific customer request, etc.
In your case, we wanted to see *exactly* when it arrived since we paid for the extra cost to get it to you in time for Christmas, as we would have insisted on a refund of those additional charges had the shipment not been delivered on the 24th as we insisted, at our expense.
All of our shipments are fully insured. The best way to annoy a customer is to require a signature for all shipments across the board. We know, we used to, years ago.
That caused a lot of unnecessary trips to UPS hubs to pick up shipments in person all across the country, due to people being at work, or having to wait until the next day best case scenario, and all kinds of other additional delays & hassles.
We insure every shipment properly and require a signature only when necessary due to location, policy, or request, and it all works out just fine, our customers get what they order.
Just FYI in general................
Actually, we leave that up to the individual driver's discretion most of the time, unless there is a specific reason for us to require a signature, such as due to different credit card company policies, or a specific customer request, etc.
In your case, we wanted to see *exactly* when it arrived since we paid for the extra cost to get it to you in time for Christmas, as we would have insisted on a refund of those additional charges had the shipment not been delivered on the 24th as we insisted, at our expense.
All of our shipments are fully insured. The best way to annoy a customer is to require a signature for all shipments across the board. We know, we used to, years ago.

That caused a lot of unnecessary trips to UPS hubs to pick up shipments in person all across the country, due to people being at work, or having to wait until the next day best case scenario, and all kinds of other additional delays & hassles.
We insure every shipment properly and require a signature only when necessary due to location, policy, or request, and it all works out just fine, our customers get what they order.

Just FYI in general................
tuner ?
Hey Mike, I put info in truck yesterday, and i wanted to change my tire info but it did not ask me any info on tire size, only shift pts.
Am i missing something?
Let me know.
Thanks Rob
Am i missing something?
Let me know.
Thanks Rob
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Hey guys (and Mike), ? about the tuner. Is there a program in it that will adjust the shift points but allow you to still use 87 octane?? My problem is I want to better the shift points and sometimes use premium fuel, but I put over 30K miles/ year on my truck and don't want to have to buy premium fuel all of the time. Or can I use the program/s and still use regular unleaded, just not have the performance until I use premium??
Thanks in advance!!
Thanks in advance!!
Hi LightningCrew,
Sorry my friend, but the *only* way you can use the Micro Tuner in these gasoline engine vehicles is with good quality premium gas, no exceptions. You can return it back to stock and *then* use 87 octane, but anytime the Micro Tuner is installed, you'll have to run premium gas.
You have to accept the performance engine tuning to get *any* of the other changes, you can't just run on the wimpy stock engine program but still have all the other functions; you either accept the engine tuning changes or you get nothing. Superchips won't allow skipping the engine tuning in that device, as that defeats the basic purpose of a performance chip/optimized powertrain program in the first place, which is the raw power gain.
With the Micro Tuner you *can* return the vehicle back to stock when you want to run low-grade fuel, but anytime you use the Micro Tuner, you will *have* to use premium gas.
Just to give you some background on the issue of increase fuel costs to run performance tuning in these vehicles..................
Fuel cost analysis shows that the actual increase in fuel costs to run these vehicles on premium gas with the Superchips tuning (as compared to running in on the stock factory program on 87 octane) is very small, and in worst-case not more than $100 per 10,000 miles driven. It's a tiny amount overall, literally maybe as much as $2-$3 more a week for those driving 15,-000-20,000 miles per year, and for many people even less. This assumes a 20 cent per gallon cost delta between good quality 87 & good quality premium gas, and a 50-50 mix of city & highway driving.
Now in your case, since you drive 30,000 miles per year, you could potentially in a worst-case scenario have to spend as much as $300 more per year for gasoline; however, if you're driving that many miles, chances are a good bit of that is at least at cruising speeds, if not actually on the highway, and not primarily in stop & go traffic; and in that case the cost difference would drop significantly. Just FYI here in case you might not have had a chance to see us talk about this in the past & would like to know of the real-world numbers, etc.
If you would like to have a performance program for 87 octane, we can do that for you in either the traditional single program Superchip, or in the 2-program Superchip Flip Chip (and in the Flip Chip you'd have *both* performance programs, one for 87 octane and the other for premium). You won't see much raw power gain on 87 octane of course, you wouldn't see more than about 5 HP to maybe 7-8 more HP at best in a 5.4 with our tuning for 87 octane, but it will have all the other benefits, delays & retards pulled, better shifting in the automatics, etc., and we can do any custom tuning if needed, too.
If you'd like to go over any of hte options, etc. in more dtail, give us a quick call & we'll be happy to go over all of that with you. We can usually find a way to accommodate what you want.
Sorry my friend, but the *only* way you can use the Micro Tuner in these gasoline engine vehicles is with good quality premium gas, no exceptions. You can return it back to stock and *then* use 87 octane, but anytime the Micro Tuner is installed, you'll have to run premium gas.
You have to accept the performance engine tuning to get *any* of the other changes, you can't just run on the wimpy stock engine program but still have all the other functions; you either accept the engine tuning changes or you get nothing. Superchips won't allow skipping the engine tuning in that device, as that defeats the basic purpose of a performance chip/optimized powertrain program in the first place, which is the raw power gain.
With the Micro Tuner you *can* return the vehicle back to stock when you want to run low-grade fuel, but anytime you use the Micro Tuner, you will *have* to use premium gas.
Just to give you some background on the issue of increase fuel costs to run performance tuning in these vehicles..................
Fuel cost analysis shows that the actual increase in fuel costs to run these vehicles on premium gas with the Superchips tuning (as compared to running in on the stock factory program on 87 octane) is very small, and in worst-case not more than $100 per 10,000 miles driven. It's a tiny amount overall, literally maybe as much as $2-$3 more a week for those driving 15,-000-20,000 miles per year, and for many people even less. This assumes a 20 cent per gallon cost delta between good quality 87 & good quality premium gas, and a 50-50 mix of city & highway driving.
Now in your case, since you drive 30,000 miles per year, you could potentially in a worst-case scenario have to spend as much as $300 more per year for gasoline; however, if you're driving that many miles, chances are a good bit of that is at least at cruising speeds, if not actually on the highway, and not primarily in stop & go traffic; and in that case the cost difference would drop significantly. Just FYI here in case you might not have had a chance to see us talk about this in the past & would like to know of the real-world numbers, etc.
If you would like to have a performance program for 87 octane, we can do that for you in either the traditional single program Superchip, or in the 2-program Superchip Flip Chip (and in the Flip Chip you'd have *both* performance programs, one for 87 octane and the other for premium). You won't see much raw power gain on 87 octane of course, you wouldn't see more than about 5 HP to maybe 7-8 more HP at best in a 5.4 with our tuning for 87 octane, but it will have all the other benefits, delays & retards pulled, better shifting in the automatics, etc., and we can do any custom tuning if needed, too.
If you'd like to go over any of hte options, etc. in more dtail, give us a quick call & we'll be happy to go over all of that with you. We can usually find a way to accommodate what you want.
Once again Mike, thanks for your time and information. I am assuming that the minimal increase in price is due to the fact that your mpg increases, which will be a good sell to the wife. I should be giving you a call soon.
Hi LightningCrew,
Sure, you're very welcome, & hope I'm not coming off "hard sell" here, as that's not my intention, just sharing info here.
You're absolutely right with regard to the actual amounts involved in increased fuel costs to run the Superchip on premium all the time, versus running on 87 with the factory program. We do see some small mpg gains, but they'll virtually *never* be enough to offset that entire 20 cent per gallon cost delta between 87 & premium, as most people here already know. Though that very thing has actually happened for a few people, (including us with several vehicles), that's really something that happens primarily with vehicles that already required premium gas from the factory, in which case you have no "cost delta," any mpg gain at all automatically gives you actual dollar savings in those vehicles (Lincoln Mark 8's, Lightning's, supercharged Harley's, etc.). In vehicles that require 87 octane from the factory, you wouldn't see a big enough mpg gain to offset that entire cost delta, you will virtually always have some increase in fuel costs, but it's very small in reality for most people.
What gives the potential for mpg increase in the Superchips performance tuning (and it's only fair to point out that it's a performance product, not an "mpg product" by design) are 2 things, the first of which is the exact same thing that gives us a good bit of the raw power gain on part-throttle, the increased spark advance used as part of the performance tuning for premium gas. It's an unintentional by-product, but basically the engine runs just a bit more efficiently, thus you can save a bit of fuel, primarily when cruising in these big heavy trucks. Not a lot, but enough to offset a portion of that cost delta, so the actual increase in out of pocket money for gas turns to to be a small number. The other aspect is that thanks to the increased power, most people can stay in Overdrive or a higher gear longer, and/or in more situations, thus turning fewer rpms at those times. Now this we don't even calculate into our numbers, there's really no way to track that of course, but it is a contributing factor, particularly with those getting the higher mpg gains.
In terms of how much mileage gain is possible in these F-150's from the performance tuning, well, some people have seen zero, of course, and that will happen for 1 of 2 reasons: either they're driving the vehicle harder checking out the new performance levels, something almost everyone does for at least a little while after installing a new go-fast part, or they use cheaper lower energy premium fuels, trying to save a few pennies per gallon when stepping up to "premium" gas. For best performance and mileage, and of course to keep the fuel system, intake valves & combustion chambers clean, only the best quality gasolines should be used, either in 87 octane, 91, 93, or whatever octane.
And then some people have reported as much as 3.5 mpg, with a rough average running about 1.5 mpg on the highway. Very few see 2.5+ mpg gains, that's pretty rare overall in F-150's.
Just more data...........
Sure, you're very welcome, & hope I'm not coming off "hard sell" here, as that's not my intention, just sharing info here.

You're absolutely right with regard to the actual amounts involved in increased fuel costs to run the Superchip on premium all the time, versus running on 87 with the factory program. We do see some small mpg gains, but they'll virtually *never* be enough to offset that entire 20 cent per gallon cost delta between 87 & premium, as most people here already know. Though that very thing has actually happened for a few people, (including us with several vehicles), that's really something that happens primarily with vehicles that already required premium gas from the factory, in which case you have no "cost delta," any mpg gain at all automatically gives you actual dollar savings in those vehicles (Lincoln Mark 8's, Lightning's, supercharged Harley's, etc.). In vehicles that require 87 octane from the factory, you wouldn't see a big enough mpg gain to offset that entire cost delta, you will virtually always have some increase in fuel costs, but it's very small in reality for most people.
What gives the potential for mpg increase in the Superchips performance tuning (and it's only fair to point out that it's a performance product, not an "mpg product" by design) are 2 things, the first of which is the exact same thing that gives us a good bit of the raw power gain on part-throttle, the increased spark advance used as part of the performance tuning for premium gas. It's an unintentional by-product, but basically the engine runs just a bit more efficiently, thus you can save a bit of fuel, primarily when cruising in these big heavy trucks. Not a lot, but enough to offset a portion of that cost delta, so the actual increase in out of pocket money for gas turns to to be a small number. The other aspect is that thanks to the increased power, most people can stay in Overdrive or a higher gear longer, and/or in more situations, thus turning fewer rpms at those times. Now this we don't even calculate into our numbers, there's really no way to track that of course, but it is a contributing factor, particularly with those getting the higher mpg gains.
In terms of how much mileage gain is possible in these F-150's from the performance tuning, well, some people have seen zero, of course, and that will happen for 1 of 2 reasons: either they're driving the vehicle harder checking out the new performance levels, something almost everyone does for at least a little while after installing a new go-fast part, or they use cheaper lower energy premium fuels, trying to save a few pennies per gallon when stepping up to "premium" gas. For best performance and mileage, and of course to keep the fuel system, intake valves & combustion chambers clean, only the best quality gasolines should be used, either in 87 octane, 91, 93, or whatever octane.
And then some people have reported as much as 3.5 mpg, with a rough average running about 1.5 mpg on the highway. Very few see 2.5+ mpg gains, that's pretty rare overall in F-150's.
Just more data...........


