LEDF150=Bad Buyer
LEDF150=Bad Buyer
Cliffnotes: LEDF150 responds to my 5.4L motor ad. Negoitates a price and method of payment. He pays for the motor. Next day wants his money back cause Daddy want let him have it. In the meantime, I've spent some of the money and turned away another buyer, because it was already SOLD! He agrees to me finding a new buyer before I refund any money and he offers $100-200 for my trouble. Now, he has filed a dispute with his credit card company claiming the item was not as described. Now PayPal is going to hit me with a chargeback fee.
DO NOT SELL TO THIS GUY!!! Here's our PM'S:
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-15 14:00
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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No, I don't have the harness. It's been hacked up and reused. I'm pretty sure your existing harness could be made to work.
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-15 14:09
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Here's a pic of the motor when it came out of my truck:

Think of it like a crate motor. All the things you would need for a crate motor, you're going to need for this motor.
I'll have to check with a freight company tomorrow for a shipping qoute, but I think it should be about $400 for the shipping. It cost me $500 to ship a motor from California to Alabama, so from here to Ohio should be a lot less.
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-25 07:26
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Just send a cashier's check or money order for $1500 to:
xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxxx
As soon as I receive the check, I will arrange for a freight service to deliver the motor. It will come crated up and on a pallet. Make sure that you send me an address where a large truck can deliver.
Thanks,
Chris
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-25 20:22
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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I'll go along with that. My paypal address is: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
I'll need your shipping address, and keep in mind, the motor will have to ship via semi-truck, so make sure the delivery address is truck accessible, and make sure you have a way of unloading it.
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-25 20:57
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Great! Because of the Thanksgiving holiday, Monday will be the soonest I can arrange for a truck. So if I call Monday, a truck comes on Tuesday, you will have the motor on Friday. I send you the tracking info when I get it.
Thanks,
Chris
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-28 14:40
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Well, this is a screwed up situation we have here.
I've already spent a good portion of the money, so in order for me to refund anything, it would have to come off my credit card. That would cost me. Not to mention, I turned another buyer
away because you had bought it.
I'm going to have to think about this.
I'll r
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-30 11:07
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Well, I see you've disputed the charge on your credit card. Do you have a good attorney? Especially one that has expierence with criminal fraud?
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From : LEDF150
To : mcdover
Date : 2009-11-30 12:32
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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I sent you a message less than 24 hours after I sent the payment. You ignored that message for two days and spent the money. Then I hear nothing from you again for two more days. I can see that
you are online everyday, so why wouldn't you just respond? You never told me anything other than the fact that you don't have the money. I can call Amex and have them stop the inquiry. I'm not sure
why you would rather hire a lawyer than just let me know what's going on. You have my phone number. You could've called me anytime to discuss this. I can call my attorney after work if that's what
you want to do. I would much rather just talk about it like a reasonable person.
DO NOT SELL TO THIS GUY!!! Here's our PM'S:
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-15 14:00
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Originally Posted by LEDF150
I'm very interested in this motor. What exactly is included? Does it have the harnesses, etc.? Basically I would want to swap this into my '08 which has the 4.6 right now.
Would it be a direct swap? I'm just trying to find out what else I would need before I buy a motor. Shipping would be to a commercial address, the zip code is 44131.
Would it be a direct swap? I'm just trying to find out what else I would need before I buy a motor. Shipping would be to a commercial address, the zip code is 44131.
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To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-15 14:09
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Originally Posted by LEDF150
I'm very interested in this motor. What exactly is included? Does it have the harnesses, etc.? Basically I would want to swap this into my '08 which has the 4.6 right now. Would it
be a direct swap? I'm just trying to find out what else I would need before I buy a motor. Shipping would be to a commercial address, the zip code is 44131.
be a direct swap? I'm just trying to find out what else I would need before I buy a motor. Shipping would be to a commercial address, the zip code is 44131.

Think of it like a crate motor. All the things you would need for a crate motor, you're going to need for this motor.
I'll have to check with a freight company tomorrow for a shipping qoute, but I think it should be about $400 for the shipping. It cost me $500 to ship a motor from California to Alabama, so from here to Ohio should be a lot less.
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-25 07:26
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Originally Posted by LEDF150
Sorry I haven't gotten back to you sooner. I will take the motor if it's still available. I'm at work now but can send the money as soon as I get home. Just let me know, thanks.
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As soon as I receive the check, I will arrange for a freight service to deliver the motor. It will come crated up and on a pallet. Make sure that you send me an address where a large truck can deliver.
Thanks,
Chris
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To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-25 20:22
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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I'll go along with that. My paypal address is: xxxxxx@xxxxxx.com
I'll need your shipping address, and keep in mind, the motor will have to ship via semi-truck, so make sure the delivery address is truck accessible, and make sure you have a way of unloading it.
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From : mcdover
To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-25 20:57
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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Originally Posted by LEDF150
Payment sent. Here's the shipping address:
UTC RETAIL
Attn: Michael xxxxx
4820 xxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx, OH 44131
Also here's my phone # in case the shipping company needs one
xxx-xxx-xxx
Thanks, Mike
UTC RETAIL
Attn: Michael xxxxx
4820 xxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx, OH 44131
Also here's my phone # in case the shipping company needs one
xxx-xxx-xxx
Thanks, Mike
Thanks,
Chris
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Date : 2009-11-28 14:40
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Originally Posted by LEDF150
Well, my dad just told me I can't store the motor here. Do not ship it. I feel absolutely terrible about wasting your time like this. The way things look right now,
it would probably be best if I just got a refund. I don't think there's any way I can work this out. It would be really great if you could just send the money back. I think you should keep
$100 or $200 dollars for your time. Like I said, I feel absolutely terrible about asking for my money back. I hope we can work something out.
it would probably be best if I just got a refund. I don't think there's any way I can work this out. It would be really great if you could just send the money back. I think you should keep
$100 or $200 dollars for your time. Like I said, I feel absolutely terrible about asking for my money back. I hope we can work something out.
Well, this is a screwed up situation we have here.
I've already spent a good portion of the money, so in order for me to refund anything, it would have to come off my credit card. That would cost me. Not to mention, I turned another buyer
away because you had bought it.
I'm going to have to think about this.
I'll r
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To : LEDF150
Date : 2009-11-30 11:07
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Originally Posted by LEDF150
I don't need the money refunded today. I just wanted to make sure you know not to ship the motor to me. If you need to sell it to someone else first, that is fine by me. Again,
I really must apologize for this.
I really must apologize for this.
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From : LEDF150
To : mcdover
Date : 2009-11-30 12:32
Title : Re: Engine for sale
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I sent you a message less than 24 hours after I sent the payment. You ignored that message for two days and spent the money. Then I hear nothing from you again for two more days. I can see that
you are online everyday, so why wouldn't you just respond? You never told me anything other than the fact that you don't have the money. I can call Amex and have them stop the inquiry. I'm not sure
why you would rather hire a lawyer than just let me know what's going on. You have my phone number. You could've called me anytime to discuss this. I can call my attorney after work if that's what
you want to do. I would much rather just talk about it like a reasonable person.
Just a heads up, the mods don't like the posting of "personal communications". I had a bad experience and tried to post about it and most of my post got deleted because I posted the e-mails between myself and the buyer.
Sorry for your troubles, hope it gets worked out.
- NCSU
Sorry for your troubles, hope it gets worked out.
- NCSU
Last edited by NCSU_05_FX4; Nov 30, 2009 at 10:17 PM.
Id send that to paypal and the cc company and dispute the dispute. Saying that he backed out of the sale.
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How do you say item isn't described if he never even got it? I agree with the fraud.





