$50 worth of detailing supplies
I used a similar machine for years (10+).
It's a good way to speed up application but that's about it.
They sell good MF bonnets for it at wally world strangely enough.
You can use it to cover swirls but won't remove them. (remove everything by hand)
Don't use the wool bonnet on it. You'll cause more than you fix.
Can hit $50 pretty dang quick. Let's focus on covering.
For that money frame, lack of direct sun pics, Meg's line, and estimated experience I'd recomend.
ScratchX for more prevelant scratches or maybe M105
#9 swirl remover (more like swirl cover)
#6 polish (more filler)
#26 hi tech wax (more filler)
Get a gallon of Hyper-Dressing for trim, tires, wheel wells, undercarriage, engine. You'll thank yourself over and over and over if you do.
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I got good results from this for quite a while before I purchased a DA.
It's a good way to speed up application but that's about it.
They sell good MF bonnets for it at wally world strangely enough.
You can use it to cover swirls but won't remove them. (remove everything by hand)
Don't use the wool bonnet on it. You'll cause more than you fix.
Can hit $50 pretty dang quick. Let's focus on covering.
For that money frame, lack of direct sun pics, Meg's line, and estimated experience I'd recomend.
ScratchX for more prevelant scratches or maybe M105
#9 swirl remover (more like swirl cover)
#6 polish (more filler)
#26 hi tech wax (more filler)
Get a gallon of Hyper-Dressing for trim, tires, wheel wells, undercarriage, engine. You'll thank yourself over and over and over if you do.
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I got good results from this for quite a while before I purchased a DA.
I'm a little confused and I was hoping that someone can clear this for me. Can someone list the least aggressive to most aggressive Meguiars products there are for removing scratches/swirls. The reason I ask is b/c I would consider my truck to be in pretty good shape but when the weather breaks I would like clay it, clean/polish it, than wax it. I watched the "How to Use a PC" DVD from ADS and Mike used #80 on the car and produced great results. Would you guys say that #80 is great for light scratches? If not, then what.
I'm a little confused and I was hoping that someone can clear this for me. Can someone list the least aggressive to most aggressive Meguiars products there are for removing scratches/swirls. The reason I ask is b/c I would consider my truck to be in pretty good shape but when the weather breaks I would like clay it, clean/polish it, than wax it. I watched the "How to Use a PC" DVD from ADS and Mike used #80 on the car and produced great results. Would you guys say that #80 is great for light scratches? If not, then what.
80 is a pretty good product for removing some decent swirls however it is not going to remove incredibly bad ones. 83 followed by 80 would work well for removing heavier swirls. 105 is technically more aggressive than both but it is a different comparison because super micro abrasives rather than diminishing abrasives. I have used the old 105 that wasn't DA approved with a DA and it worked great, but from what it sounds like you are asking if 80 is the right choice for your car correct?
Pmason, 80 would be just fine for your surface, I consider 80 similar to PB SSR1, they have about the same cut in it.
I suggested 105 due to its ability to work by hand...ah yes to the OP, SX would be a great start on those issues first.
Ok, scratch x has been approved. Now what about polishes and waxes. I really don't want to order this stuff online. I want to go out and get it today and get it done while the weather permits.
just go get scratch x, and the megs deep crystal system #1 and #2 then top it off with nxt 2.0. just do it all by hand, you might cause more damage using the machine. you can find all those products in stores. and you should be well under $50 bucks.
Okay, I see what you are trying to accomplish. Do it by HAND, and go buy the following at Walmart, Autozone, etc.
1. Megs Scratch-X
2. Megs Color-X *-or-* Megs Deep Crystal Cleaner (step 1)
3. Megs NXT 2.0 Tech Wax (liquid)
Wash it. Then clay it. Polish it with the ColorX or DC Cleaner and a microfiber applicator, using it thinly and rubbing it in, let dry to a haze before removal. Use Scratch-X on any remaining scratches and cruddy looking spots, same type applicator. You have to work the Scratch-X pretty hard to get results, it's not just a quick wipe on/wipe off product. If you can feel a scratch with your fingernail, ScratchX won't fix it. Then use the NXT *very thin*, rubbing it in, with the provided foam applicator, let it set up for an hour, remove. Repeat the NXT in 12 hours. Use reasonable quality microfiber towels for product removal.
A rotary buffer with a wool pad should only be used with certain chemicals by experienced detailers to correct paint that's been neglected.
This procedure will not give you a professional job, but it will look good enough to satisfy 90% of the people out there. The NXT has enough polishing agents and fillers to hide most imperfections.
1. Megs Scratch-X
2. Megs Color-X *-or-* Megs Deep Crystal Cleaner (step 1)
3. Megs NXT 2.0 Tech Wax (liquid)
Wash it. Then clay it. Polish it with the ColorX or DC Cleaner and a microfiber applicator, using it thinly and rubbing it in, let dry to a haze before removal. Use Scratch-X on any remaining scratches and cruddy looking spots, same type applicator. You have to work the Scratch-X pretty hard to get results, it's not just a quick wipe on/wipe off product. If you can feel a scratch with your fingernail, ScratchX won't fix it. Then use the NXT *very thin*, rubbing it in, with the provided foam applicator, let it set up for an hour, remove. Repeat the NXT in 12 hours. Use reasonable quality microfiber towels for product removal.
A rotary buffer with a wool pad should only be used with certain chemicals by experienced detailers to correct paint that's been neglected.
This procedure will not give you a professional job, but it will look good enough to satisfy 90% of the people out there. The NXT has enough polishing agents and fillers to hide most imperfections.
Last edited by glc; Dec 26, 2008 at 03:38 PM.
I've already bought all the stuff and I just finished waxing it. I must say that it does look better. The scratches that were on it aren't as noticeable now. The liquid wax is so much easier to work with then that old turtle wax **** I've been using for years.
As glc said you have to work the product.
Does anyone know if ScratchX 2.0 is out yet. That, along with SwirlX and Ultimate Compound are all new, use Meguiars new Super Micro Abrasive Technology, and are formulated to work well by hand.
In order from least aggressive to most aggressive:
ScratchX
SwirlX
ScratchX 2.0
Ultimate Compound
So if ScratchX doesn't do the trick, you can always try the Ultimate Compound. Ofcourse you can always try M105 and the new M205 by hand. M205 would actually fall between ScratchX (original) and SwirlX.
Side note: While some people may frown upon this, it is ok to do. If Scratch isn't doing anything by foam applicator or microfiber, you can step the aggressiveness up a bit by using a high quality terry cloth towel.
Does anyone know if ScratchX 2.0 is out yet. That, along with SwirlX and Ultimate Compound are all new, use Meguiars new Super Micro Abrasive Technology, and are formulated to work well by hand.
In order from least aggressive to most aggressive:
ScratchX
SwirlX
ScratchX 2.0
Ultimate Compound
So if ScratchX doesn't do the trick, you can always try the Ultimate Compound. Ofcourse you can always try M105 and the new M205 by hand. M205 would actually fall between ScratchX (original) and SwirlX.
Side note: While some people may frown upon this, it is ok to do. If Scratch isn't doing anything by foam applicator or microfiber, you can step the aggressiveness up a bit by using a high quality terry cloth towel.
Last edited by esf; Dec 26, 2008 at 04:59 PM.
quick question about microfibers-i see BJ's has a pack of 40 microfibers for like 15 bucks. would these be ok to use on my truck because i am always quick detailing and going thru microfibers like crazy and to me that sounds like a good deal. just want to get others opinions
The 16x16 microfibers that Rick sells are decent quality for a great price. I would suggest using those for all around purposes.
http://www.autodetailingsolutions.co...7;20Towels.htm
http://www.autodetailingsolutions.co...7;20Towels.htm
Quick detailing can induce micro marring. A lot of people don't even quick detail because of this. That being said, I would only use high quality microfiber towels. The last thing you want to do is drag dirt across your paint. You probably won't find any high quality MF towels local. Your best bet is to go to The Rag Shack and pick up some good towels. There are other places as well if you want to look around some more but in my opinion, you can't beat the service, often times the price, and the shipping is always good providing you're not ordering one towel. I love when people order one or two towels and then complain shipping costs more than the order. No kidding.





