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Old Jul 13, 2008 | 10:58 PM
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Brad (RockPick) has an older Bronco, too, so he may be able to offer some great insight.
Mine's a 1978 model... so, it's not quite apples to apples on the paint.

I believe that a 1995 model will have dual-stage paint (I think -- you're on the cusp of when they went to modern two-stage verus the old high-pigment single stage).

Before I recommend a course of action, do this for me... take the Z-Fusion that you have, apply a tiny dab to a towel and rub a spot. See any color? If so, it's single stage -- if not, it's likely clearcoated. Now, you mentioned it's been sprayed in a place or two -- were those spots shot dual-stage or single? Try that test there too...

Once you're there, let's chat. There are some products that will work better on SS versus modern paint. While Color-X is a GREAT choice on single stage, I haven't had a plethora of luck with it on more modern finishes (although, it can be used there -- and yes, it is a pretty new product (probably 2004, maybe?)).

Let us know...
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Mine's a 1978 model... so, it's not quite apples to apples on the paint.

I believe that a 1995 model will have dual-stage paint (I think -- you're on the cusp of when they went to modern two-stage verus the old high-pigment single stage).

Before I recommend a course of action, do this for me... take the Z-Fusion that you have, apply a tiny dab to a towel and rub a spot. See any color? If so, it's single stage -- if not, it's likely clearcoated. Now, you mentioned it's been sprayed in a place or two -- were those spots shot dual-stage or single? Try that test there too...

Once you're there, let's chat. There are some products that will work better on SS versus modern paint. While Color-X is a GREAT choice on single stage, I haven't had a plethora of luck with it on more modern finishes (although, it can be used there -- and yes, it is a pretty new product (probably 2004, maybe?)).

Let us know...
Thanks. I am just reading this at 11:00 pm, but I had to go out and confirm. I used some old Megs Body Scrub that I have and I did not get any color from the old or the new paint. I hope this helps, and by the way, thanks.

I know it's not detailing, but so far today we have (my wife and I) replaced the passeger side window motor, the rear window motor and stripped off the front drivers and passenger windows of old tint. Man I happen to borrow one of those little steamers for cleaning, but the tint guy said use the steam for the windows, and that old tint came off really nice with the help of a razor blade.

I am tired. Tomorrow the top will hopefully come off.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Sounds like you had a fun day...

If you weren't seeing any color with Body Scrub, you're almost definitely clear coated. That said... let's proceed as if we're working on a modern, two-stage, painted finish...

Next question...

Looking at the hood picture, it looks like there might be a certain degree of oxidation? Any chance of getting a few more pictures -- say, out in the direct sunlight?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Sounds like you had a fun day...

If you weren't seeing any color with Body Scrub, you're almost definitely clear coated. That said... let's proceed as if we're working on a modern, two-stage, painted finish...

Next question...

Looking at the hood picture, it looks like there might be a certain degree of oxidation? Any chance of getting a few more pictures -- say, out in the direct sunlight?

Hope these are better. Thanks

 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 12:54 PM
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They are...

Still tough to tell but, it looks VERY dull. How about the oxidation? Do you see a white or milky look to the paint?
 
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Old Jul 14, 2008 | 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
They are...

Still tough to tell but, it looks VERY dull. How about the oxidation? Do you see a white or milky look to the paint?

Not white, but more hazy with a load of water spots. The truck spent half of it's life in Hawaii, then the rest sitting out in Vancouver, WA. It's seen it's share of weather.

However, today we took the top off and it looks good and it's fun. The kids had a blast, but when it's 90+, hot is even hotter in the sun.

Our plan is to get the paint acceptable and replace the carpet. I've tried cleaning it, but I can't get some of the stains completely out, and if you've ever been to Hawaii, well that volcanic dirt is awful as far as staining goes.

Anyhow back to the paint. It is definitely oxidized, but more so hard water stains if I had to guess. I hope that helps, because I am anxious to get at it. Thanks again.
 
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Old Jul 15, 2008 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Mine's a 1978 model... so, it's not quite apples to apples on the paint.
Well, I didnt check, but I did remember that you had one...

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While Color-X is a GREAT choice on single stage, I haven't had a plethora of luck with it on more modern finishes (although, it can be used there -- and yes, it is a pretty new product (probably 2004, maybe?)).
Hmmm... when I first got into this whole OCD thing, I had a bottle of Color-X that did pretty darn well for what I wanted it to do. It removed ~25% of the swirling/etc, then put some protection on there. I still use it occasionally on the parents cars, but it mostly is waiting for SS paint. Granted, I'd be willing to bet that there are a boatload of filling capabilities in it, so after an alcohol wipedown, you'd prolly be disappointed, but if you are after a quick and easy job (no comments please) with pretty good results, its a great go-to product. Without trying #6, I'd guess its similar. Not trying to disagree, but just putting in my 2 cents...
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BTW--Does anybody know how C-X compares to #6? To D151 PCC? Thanks!
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 11:25 AM
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So Rockpick, what do you recommend?
 
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Old Jul 16, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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Ahh you forgot about me. Thats okay. Rick at ADS helped me out.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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So Rockpick, what do you recommend?
Sorry, bud. I kind of fell off the map trying to get a significant proposal out the door for my 'real' job...

Sounds like Rick got you taken care of? He's pretty good at doing that... Hopefully you told him that the folks here at f150online.com said hello!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by f-150sport03
Responses in bold.

BTW--Does anybody know how C-X compares to #6? To D151 PCC? Thanks!
Still haven't tried 151 -- but, I bet it's amazingly similar. Meg's really has set a paradigm here as of late with putting out an A or G-line product and following with a nearly identical product on the M or D line.

Case in point --

UQD & M135
NXT 2.0 and #21 2.0
D151 & Color X
Scratch X & #86 (maybe a stretch...)

Anyway, I'm just seeing it more and more. Since the brush/mitt/towel line didn't do so hot on the consumer market, I'm wondering if they're exploring other possibilities for getting Barry a new 57' Chevy.

-RP-
 
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Old Jul 17, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Still haven't tried 151 -- but, I bet it's amazingly similar. Meg's really has set a paradigm here as of late with putting out an A or G-line product and following with a nearly identical product on the M or D line.

Case in point --

UQD & M135
NXT 2.0 and #21 2.0
D151 & Color X
Scratch X & #86 (maybe a stretch...)

Anyway, I'm just seeing it more and more. Since the brush/mitt/towel line didn't do so hot on the consumer market, I'm wondering if they're exploring other possibilities for getting Barry a new 57' Chevy.

-RP-
some of that's almost funny...although I think they should change stuff more between the lines...

Good to know though. And yes, I bet Barry is trying to get a new toy... that must be what is up.

That said, do you know if it has original paint, or is it dual stage? If original, it would make what you told me about earlier (labsters working on it in the sun) interesting-- not too many SS jobs around anymore...at least ones that are worth doing...
 
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Old Jul 30, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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04 F-150 Screw w/ well water stains.

I want to start by saying you guys on here are awesome. I have learned a lot in the week I have been reading through all the posts.
 

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