Help Requested with Poorboy's Order
 

I'm looking to place an order with Poorboys but I could use some help. It's a small one consisting of:

PB Black Hole
PB Wheel Sealant
PB EX-P

However, I have a few questions regarding these. My usual order of detailing the truck is:

Gold Wash
Clay
Meg's Step 1 & 2
NXT 2.0

With these additional products, where do they fit into my routine (excluding the wheel sealant)? Is EX-P and Black Hole a one or another scenario after the NXT 2.0?

Also, any other products from Poorboy's you'd recommend?

Are you applying by hand or DA?

You can use both EX-P and Black Hole. EX-P is a sealant, Black Hole is a glaze, so apply Black Hole then EX-P. No need to follow EX-P with NXT, but you can top with a carnuba if you'd like.

At the moment everything is by hand....

Follow what hwm3 says and you'll be on your way. Black Hole is an awesome product, you'll love it !!

As the EX-P is a sealant, should I apply the NXT 2.0 followed by the Black Hole and topped with the EX-P?

Wait 12 hours after applying the sealant to put on the NXT.

sorry did i miss something?

Why put NXT over EX-P?

Why wait 12 hours after EX-P? Can be topped in as little as 45-60 min.

Agree completely.

Right you can top ex-p in as little as an hour, I think he ment to wait 12 hours in between coats of nxt, or if you are going to top it with something else.

....:thumbsup:

Now I'm all confused...

So it's Black Hole, Sealant, then NXT?

:confused:

I don't know that you'd need NXT to top off the EX-P. EX-P is pretty protective already. I usually use Collinite 845 which looks nice and lasts a good while. You can also use something like the Natty's line of waxes, or something else for nice "pop."

Edit:

Just took the time to actually read the whole thread - my apologies.

I would do this:

Wash
Clay
Megs 1 and 2
Black Hole
EX-P (wait an hour, longer is not necessary...)
Top with the LSP of your choice.

Now, LSP - if you want to use NXT, go for it. I just don't find the extra protection necessary as per my prior comment. EX-P does a fine job sealing everything up. Unless you live in an area where you think you need it, i.e. lots of sand, lots of water, lots of salt, etc. I use Collinite 845 because here in TX we get a lot of wind and it tends to kick up all the dust and pollen and move it across my paint faster than I'd like. If I didn't have Collinite, I would probably use NXT.

If I didn't worry about the wind so much, I would pick up some Natty's Red, if you can find it (great for dark colors.) There's also a blue (dark colors,) and the regular which is white, (light colors/metallics.)

Use the wheel sealant whenever you feel like doing the wheels - might as well do it while you're doing the rest of the truck.

Good luck and have fun.

Sorry, I was confused. I thought what I had been using was EX-P but it's EX. The guys at PB told me to wait 12 hours before applying anything over it.

I guess longer can't hurt but I don't think it'd make a huge difference..


I believe the only reason to wait is to allow the Carnauba to "cure." (Remember the EX has Carnauba in it, EX-P does not..)

What you have here is correct. But what some others are trying to say is that you may not need the NXT step at all. NXT is a synthetic sealant even though many use it as their LSP (Last Step Product). You would be topping a sealant with a sealant. Maybe a little overkill. Like others have mentioned, if you go that route, you will not need to wait more than an hour before topping the EX-P.

Let me know how you like the Black Hole, I am putting it on my next order...

Hope this helped,
Devildog101:rocker: