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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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applying m80 now

Hey I was told I was susposed to see black paint on the pad after applying and im not. Should I work it in harder or slower?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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You've been told incorrectly, possibly. Is the vehicle newer?

The only reason you'd see black paint is if you had single stage paint, not seen on newer model vehicles. Why? A product like M80 (and others,) removes small amounts of paint. On newer vehicles, you only remove small amounts of clear, unless the clear coat has been compromised or you buff all the way through the clear (which would probably take a very long time.)

You should be fine. If you're worried, post some pics and someone will comment on them.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 03:43 PM
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If you're seeing black paint using Speed Glaze, you've done something waaaay wrong if its on single stage paint.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:33 PM
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hey just fininshed my 2nd coat of m80 trucks looking good. I can still see a little swirls here and there but not bad. Do you think I should use #9 then wax or just wax note it is 7:30 right now what whould you do?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Since you said you didn't get all of the swirls out, I'd be doing another pass of #80 and than an application of #9. But, since you're pressed for time at the very least do the #9, it's got a lot of fillers which will hide those imperfections.

PS: Just remember the prep work is the most important steps to a good detail.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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Not satisfied = Not done

Be patient and work the defects until you are happy with the results. You will have to look at it everyday and wonder why you didn't make the investment of time and do it right the first time. Once you get to a point you say wow I can look at that every day throw wax on it and you are done. (Unless you are doing a coat of NXT and then #16) Then you will have 2 more steps and a 12 hour wait in between.

Be patient and the results will last for quite some time with minor maintenance. Cut corners and regret it every time you look at it.

Now get off the computer and get to work. Make sure to post pictures of before and after.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:08 PM
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Since you said you didn't get all of the swirls out, I'd be doing another pass of #80 and than an application of #9. But, since you're pressed for time at the very least do the #9, it's got a lot of fillers which will hide those imperfections.

PS: Just remember the prep work is the most important steps to a good detail.
Hey thump how long did it take you to run a coat of m80 or m9 on your old truck?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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and what do you do with your pads when you done hand soak them?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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When the wife is not home I use hot water in the sink and knead by hand. Spraying and kneading with the hose works ok for me as well. After cleaning I lay face down on a clean towel until dry and keep in individual zip locks. Make sure they are really dry or the bags will condensate with damp pads inside.

A little trick I learned was after cleaning and wringing put pad on DA and lower into empty bucket and turn on at level #6, This will get out a TON of water and dramatically shorten dry time.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong. I believe that they lay them out on a large towel and let them dry out, may need to replace the towel once it gets too wet.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2008 | 09:27 PM
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http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/sho...ght=clean+pads
very helpful thread
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 12:44 PM
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I use the Murphy's Oil method.

Grab a big bucket, dump some murphy's oil in, (not an excessive amount, but enough,) fill the rest with water.

Let your pads soak for atleast 24 hours. Once they've soaked for 24 hours, wipe them pretty well with your fingers to remove any product that wasn't removed from soaking.

Rinse with the water hose or in your sink then "fling" the water off. Be careful not to drop the pads or you might as well redo this again.

Let them sit face down on a towel for 24 hours, flip for 24 hours.

Sometimes I let mine sit all week if I'm not going to use them til the weekend. they'll be really dry, and smell wonderful.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 02:16 PM
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I use warm water + Murphys Oil Soap working the product out of the pad with my fingers. Fling dry in the bucket, like previously mentioned. I'll sit them out on a towel for a few hours.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 03:45 PM
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Hmmm Murphy's

Thanks for the tip I will give it a try.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2008 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by attworth
I use the Murphy's Oil method.

Grab a big bucket, dump some murphy's oil in, (not an excessive amount, but enough,) fill the rest with water.

Let your pads soak for atleast 24 hours. Once they've soaked for 24 hours, wipe them pretty well with your fingers to remove any product that wasn't removed from soaking.

Rinse with the water hose or in your sink then "fling" the water off. Be careful not to drop the pads or you might as well redo this again.

Let them sit face down on a towel for 24 hours, flip for 24 hours.

Sometimes I let mine sit all week if I'm not going to use them til the weekend. they'll be really dry, and smell wonderful.
Wow, great advice. I am going to start doing this very thing next time I use my pads.

I may take it one step further though and put the pads back on the DA and spin the water off before I lay on the towels.
 
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