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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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I work at a seaport. Lots of containers about 800 or so at a time. Guess who takes them to Puerto Rico? I'm so lucky! Its a Caribbean cruise I say! Hours of boredom interrupted by moments of sheer terror. All that for 3 hours ashore and then a breathalyser. Anyway, I guess after spending all that $$ on truck I guess a small investment in a cover is worth it! I'll get a PC next time I get home. Now I don't want to hijack a thread but where can I get a good cover???
http://www.carcoverworld.com/lookup....athershield_HD

not the one i was talking about but close.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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RR i would love to get in to PC (ing) my truck but i would like to know when I go to purchase it what else should I get. (pads, etc)? Also what should I be looking for in the Meguiars pro series b/c right now I'e been purchasing items from autozone. I have the NXT Gen wax and the deep paint cleaner but I will to get into more. I take it that I will see a better finish from a PC than my hand? Thanks
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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I prefer my DW849 I know DA's are all the rage now, but I've used low\high speed polishers \ sanders for years without issues.
And if you hone your skills correctly swirls etc.. are never a issue.
Wool pads, foam pads and compounds polishers have so many additives now you really have to try to screw up to get a bad result.

I recently had a buddy that had a RS\SS Camaro painted a burnt orange at a local chop shop and they must have wheeled it out during a small rain shower, because it looked like a pok faced teenager when I got it.
But a little color sanding and a good scuff and buff and you wouldn't believe the results.
Whatever you choose to purchase let the tool and compounds do the work

I use Ardex products exclusivley.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pmason718
RR i would love to get in to PC (ing) my truck but i would like to know when I go to purchase it what else should I get. (pads, etc)? Also what should I be looking for in the Meguiars pro series b/c right now I'e been purchasing items from autozone. I have the NXT Gen wax and the deep paint cleaner but I will to get into more. I take it that I will see a better finish from a PC than my hand? Thanks
you will get better results with a DA vs by hand, hands down (pardon the pun), you'll get even better results with better products.

Personally I like some Megs products but prefer to use Poorboys and Optimum
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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you will get better results with a DA vs by hand, hands down (pardon the pun), you'll get even better results with better products.
Not necessarily...

Depends on what you're doing. For defect removal; sure, the PC will do the better job. For simple last step product application, by hand is probably better all around as there's less friction, more control of the product, and less waste.

Most of us will polish with the PC (or rotary if needed) and then apply the LSP by hand with hand removal.

Obviously, there's risk any time that you apply a product using abrasion but, by hand, you're in control of quite a few more variables versus that of a machine.

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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Amen RP..
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by oceanic64
I will check for the weight. thanks. I would like to ask your opinion on this....
I park my truck in a industrial area for a month at a time. much diesel fall out and God knows what else. I have NTX for a sealant and will top it with Collinite Insulator wax. Is Megs 21 that much better than NTX? Alot of people tell me to cover the truck but by the time I drive there there is alot of crap on it. I think a cover might do more damage than a good solid coat of finish in my mind. What is your opinion on this?
Below you will find two links for full size pick up trucks to decide which
cover will best suit your requirements.

http://empirecovers.com/SearchByItemSize.aspx?size=T-2X for mini trucks with
an extended cab - the cover dimensions are 17' 6" x 60" x 56".

http://empirecovers.com/SearchByItemSize.aspx?size=T-2
for mini trucks with a standard cab - the cover dimensions are 16' 5" x 60"
x 56".

http://empirecovers.com/SearchByItemSize.aspx?size=T-3 for full size trucks
with a standard cab and six foot bed - the cover dimensions are 17' 4" x 70"
x 60".

http://empirecovers.com/SearchByItemSize.aspx?size=T-3X for trucks with an
extended cab and a six foot bed - the cover dimensions are 19' 4" x 70" x
60".

http://empirecovers.com/SearchByItemSize.aspx?size=T-4 for full size trucks
with a standard cab and an eight foot bed - the cover dimensions are 19' x
70" x 60".

http://empirecovers.com/SearchByItemSize.aspx?size=T-4X for full size
trucks with an extended cab and a six to eight foot bed - the cover
dimensions are 20' 9" x 70" x 60".

http://empirecovers.com/SearchByItemSize.aspx?size=T-9 for full size dually
trucks with an extended cab and eight foot bed - the cover dimensions are
22'x 80" x 60".

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Reply to this email with questions or feel free to call 267-263-0999 and
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Just a little to look over
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
Not necessarily...

Depends on what you're doing. For defect removal; sure, the PC will do the better job. For simple last step product application, by hand is probably better all around as there's less friction, more control of the product, and less waste.

Most of us will polish with the PC (or rotary if needed) and then apply the LSP by hand with hand removal.

Obviously, there's risk any time that you apply a product using abrasion but, by hand, you're in control of quite a few more variables versus that of a machine.

-RP-
I should do a better of posting and not presume people know what I am talking about. For the record, I never use a DA for LSP. Seems like it would be too hard to do that.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks Falcon for the links. Looks like good stuff. Is that your Plane in the pix?
 
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by RollingRock
I should do a better of posting and not presume people know what I am talking about. For the record, I never use a DA for LSP. Seems like it would be too hard to do that.

So wht do you guys recommend. First let me ask what is the diff b/t a PC and a DA. I assume their the same. I clayed my truck about 3 weeks ago , than I applied the deep paint cleaner than the NXT wax. All of this was recommended by a meguiars tech. It looked wonderful but I'm thinking if I can get it to look better. I guess I should upload some pics, huh. Should I use a PC or DA to apply the Paint cleanser and the Wax or just stick with my hand. Sorry for all the questions I know you guys get alot but I'm compent as to what is going on but I just need to be steered in the right direction with my product selection. THaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank a bunch
 
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by pmason718
First let me ask what is the diff b/t a PC and a DA.
Same machine. PC = Porter Cable --- DA = Dual-Action (polisher). These terms are, generally, used interchangably within the detailing world.

Should I use a PC or DA to apply the Paint cleanser and the Wax or just stick with my hand.
If you're jumping into a DA, the Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish or Cleaner may not be the best choice of chemicals as they are designed more for the person who is willing to spend a couple of hours on a very INFREQUENT basis to achieve 'some' results. With a DA, you open up another realm of possibilities on the types of products that you can use to accomplish quite a bit more than what you can do by hand.

As for that particular product, by hand or DA would be fine -- you'll likely not see a significant difference either way. This is, generally, true for most A-Line products (A-line = strict consumer-focused 'stuff')
 
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Old Sep 21, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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When i say this
you will get better results with a DA vs by hand, hands down (pardon the pun), you'll get even better results with better products.
It means this

From RockPick
If you're jumping into a DA, the Meguiar's Deep Crystal Polish or Cleaner may not be the best choice of chemicals as they are designed more for the person who is willing to spend a couple of hours on a very INFREQUENT basis to achieve 'some' results. With a DA, you open up another realm of possibilities on the types of products that you can use to accomplish quite a bit more than what you can do by hand.

As for that particular product, by hand or DA would be fine -- you'll likely not see a significant difference either way. This is, generally, true for most A-Line products (A-line = strict consumer-focused 'stuff')
Cheers
 
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Old Sep 22, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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I know that those products are more for the average consumer. I would like to get into their professional series of products but I dont know what I should start off with. Can you shoot me some of the product numbers in the steps they should be performed. Im going to look into getting a PC or DA this week, lol.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by pmason718
I know that those products are more for the average consumer. I would like to get into their professional series of products but I dont know what I should start off with. Can you shoot me some of the product numbers in the steps they should be performed. Im going to look into getting a PC or DA this week, lol.
That's a pretty open-ended question pmason... Can you get us some pics, some specifics on defects that you'd like to deal with, and your ultimate time frame that you're really willing to put into this deal?

Any 'Joe Blow' can go out, buy a PC, and then smack a coat of a cleaner wax on a vehicle to remove some blemishes but, it will take a true enthusiast to accomplish excellence with their paint.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RockPick
That's a pretty open-ended question pmason... Can you get us some pics, some specifics on defects that you'd like to deal with, and your ultimate time frame that you're really willing to put into this deal?

Any 'Joe Blow' can go out, buy a PC, and then smack a coat of a cleaner wax on a vehicle to remove some blemishes but, it will take a true enthusiast to accomplish excellence with their paint.
Or better yet, get the sticky. Email me. Or RR. It will be in your inbox soon.
 
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