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Old May 26, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Old wax removal = difficult time removing = help.

My first customer has been using the Turtle Wax zip wax car wash. I would like to strip it off. I've clayed, tried Dawn, and straight vinegar thus far to no avail. The water is still beading up like nothing will phase it. Any other suggestions for stripping this wax?

If it doesn't pose a problem with using Duragloss products I'll just move on to the next step, but I'll tell ya, it's aggravating not being able to strip it off. All I've done, it seems, is turn this car into the smell of house dressing.
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Happy Memorial Day Weekend rustyzipper!

Don't always assume that water beading on the paint means there's wax on it. You can also remove any wax with a light polishing with your PC and your favorite polish. If you still have any of the decontamination wash left, then that will definitely strip off any wax and most polymer or acrylic sealants.

If you're going to use the Duragloss Total Performance Polish 105 and you want to make sure it's going to bond, then use their Pre-Bonding Agent 601 first which will also clean the paint, but make sure you've washed and clayed first. Simply wipe on the PBA to the entire surface and do NOT wipe it off. Once you're done applying it to the entire vehicle, it should now be dry with a haze left behind. Once the PBA has hazed, then apply their TPP 105 directly over the hazed PBA. Once the TPP has hazed, polish it off with a clean MF. The thinner you apply the TPP, the easier it will be to wipe off

I simply use those round yellow foam applicators to apply the PBA and their TPP and they really help make the product go a lot farther as opposed to some MF applicators which soak up a lot of product.

On my personal vehicles, I usually do 2 applications of TPP 105 about 12+ hours apart just to make sure I've covered everything. And then 12+ hours later I'll follow it up with one application Aquawax.

For a monthly customer, Aquawax all by itself is really good enough for many folks and you can spray the paint, plastic or rubber trim, etc, without worrying about any chalky residue.
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Yes in deed. Happy Memorial Day Weekend to you also qadsan. It's raining here, but I clayed in the rain.

Well, I am in fact using all Duragloss shine products on this detail job. And boy I'll tell ya, I am really, really liking the Duragloss products. It's wonderful to work with. And, I have in fact, figured out the old wax removal remedy. I didn't quite remember I had the 652 pre-cleaner on the back of the shelf. Another great product. This car I'm doing has tar specks all over it, front to back, on the lower panels. This 652 just destroys it without much rubbing at all. I like it so well, I'll be doing the whole car with the PC/652/Edge yellow. I did part of the trunk lid (in-between showers) with a sponge applicator and whoa!! It was like a new paint job. I'm completely satisfied with the shine the 652 produced. That said, I can't imagine what it will look like with wax on it. Now I wish I would have put this on my truck.

I thank you for leading me to the Duragloss.

 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:22 PM
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I can't comment much on the duragloss but, like qadsan mentioned... just because it's beading doesn't mean that it's protected or that it has a wax product remaining on the paint.

Different waters will 'wet' differently. Hydrophobic tendencies aren't necessarily an indication that wax is present...

As one of the guys at Meg's told me... (paraphrased) "...we can make water bead or sheet very simplistically by simply changing the 'charge' of a couple of key components within the product...'

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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Well I am using soft water RP. I gave some thought to that, but the way it was sheeting off threw me I guess. Nothing was making sense from what I have been taught in reference. Learned something else today. Thanks buddy.
 
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Old May 26, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Keep in mind... the paint can carry similar charges to yield sheeting properties -- so says a buddy of mine in product development with PPG Coatings.

He sat in the class with me out in Irvine... super good guy... incredibly smart when it came to automotive finishing products/procedures/and techniques. I lean on him constantly for ideas/thoughts/advice.

A keen network of people that you can use as a resource is important. Never stop trying to learn.

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Old May 26, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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Keep in mind... the paint can carry similar charges to yield sheeting properties -- so says a buddy of mine in product development with PPG Coatings.

That may or may not make a differece with this car, I dunno. What I do know is, this car is a 1994 Buick Roadmaster (boat) original owner, with the original paint--never once has been detailed. I've taken pictures but the wife took off with the stupid camera. What good are they?
 
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