For those in know. Can one achieve better or equal results by using a MF towel removing wax or sealant by hand. Or can one achieve a better shine using the PC and a MF bonnet?

I've read many posts all over the net, stating that using a MF towel is much easier removing wax by hand. However, I've never actually read where they've talked about better shine results between hand removal VS machine removal. I've read where they have stated they use the PC for everything but here again, didn't really say or give result comments, which I thought strange, if in fact, removing by hand is much easier.

I know when I have used the Medallion paint cleaner it came off and made the paint look much better even using one of the el-cheapo Black & Decker car polishers with a terry cloth bonnet. Using this specific paint cleaner, it doesn't want to come off clean applying, removing by hand, but will come right off using a machine.

 

I don't buy into the hype that a better shine can be created... I think that's getting out on the edge of being voodoo.

My personal opinion is to do it by hand. Additionally, 4 out of 4 folks that I would trust with my vehicles' paint remove by hand. I'm one of those 4.

Bonnetts can load too quickly and can induce micro-marring. Additionally, removing any type of abrasive polish, once dried to the paint, is a recipe for disaster because all of the abrasives will likely not have broken down to 'nothing'. Let the marring begin!

RP

 

Thouth I apply most products with a PC and varying pads, I always remove them with a good MF towel. I apply wax with a MF applicator and remove it by hand. In my case, I have a fairly large collection of MF towels, and I change them out frequently if I feel they're loading-up; something I don't think I could feel with the PC. After I remove all the wax, I go over the entire vehicle with another clean MF with kind of a light polishing motion. For most last-step products (LSP's), you don't need pressure when removing them.

Like Rock Pick, I want to avoid the possibility of introducing contaminants, or marring the finish I just worked so hard to attain.

 

So the shine quality on this black Viper below wouldn't have been any better, if this guy would have removed the wax by hand?
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The G-100 fitted with an Ultimate Bonnet makes removing Tech Wax a breeze and leaves behind a deep, dark reflective finish.

Just check out the reflection of Niz's arm where he's removed the NXT Tech Wax. Note also what a thin application looks like to the right where he has not removed the wax yet.

http://www.meguiarsonline.com:80/for...0&pagenumber=3

 

I personally don't think you'd note any difference in overall 'pop'...

You're missing the point though... we're talking about micromarring and potentially introducing more problems by using the machine to remove it. Plus, I really think you'd be splitting hairs to say that one method is better than the other -- I can, however, with great certainty in fact, say that one method is SAFER than the other.

You can quote stuff from every other detailing forum on the web... everyone will have an opinion. Keep in mind, though, that some of the information that you'll come across is in the best interest of the individual web forums' ownership. (i.e. MOL and pushing bonnets). Meg's makes some great stuff and offers a very nice site for helping out with using their products (the bird bomb etch removal with Scratch X is a fantastically written article) but, they do have their best interests in mind... Their best interest is selling you, the consumer, their product. Someone has to pay for that ultra-schnazzy building in Irvine.




RP

 

>>>I personally don't think you'd note any difference in overall 'pop'...<<<

Good......this is what I need to know. Confusion reins supreme on the Megs web-site when delving into the hand applied camp VS. PC applied. Then ad in the rotary buffer section?--hello.

>>>Their best interest is selling you, the consumer, their product.<<<

I notice in Barry's video's, he doesn't look like he's missing many meals.

Being you've gone through the rigors RP, I'm using you for a gage, noting, you have a black truck yourself.

Right now I believe I'm possibly reading way to much. Knowledge is power, but I think I'm starting see that experimentation also has it's place.

I picked up this little kit from Auto Detail Supply recently for $30.00 off eBay. I thought it was a pretty good deal considering I've seen just the backing plates alone selling for at least half of this whole kit. While I have the Edge double side pads, I thought it might be a good idea to have the Velcro style as well.



A complete kit designed to fit 6" DA-Dual Action polishers, especially popular with the Porter cable #7424 Random Orbit Polisher, kit comes with Velcro backing plate, Microfiber bonnet, Yellow Foam cutting pad and Black foam finishing pad.