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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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R (Rock) P (Pick).....

There's a big Geologist convention here this week...You not here?
 
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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AAPG probably...

Nope, I'm not there. I'm actually in Southern California at a Meguiar's training course....

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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Hey RP,

I live in SoCal , Orange County area. I see Meguiars picnics at the lake nearby . I got a beer or two if you stop by...

 
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Old Apr 19, 2004 | 09:07 PM
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RP...What are you learning?
 
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by ROUSHFAN-1
RP...What are you learning?
We're going over the full extent of both the consumer and the professional line of products. As you might expect, there is some focus on NXT and its abilities as well.

Today we're focusing on wet sanding, rotary use, DA use, and engine compartment detailing I believe. They're bringing in a few rental cars for us to 'play with' to learn the 80 series products as well.

It should be a very informative day in the Meguiar's garage. Here's a link to the Ferrari Class that they did this past weekend....

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...=&threadid=728

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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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I think I have 80 ,82 ,83..? Can't remember right now..Can you explain about which is most abrasive? does it go in numerical order? Do you plan on working for Meg's or is this for fun...That's awsome you must be having a blast...Find out if Engine Kote is on the chopping block too..Thanks alot !!
 
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by RockPick
It should be a very informative day in the Meguiar's garage. Here's a link to the Ferrari Class that they did this past weekend....

http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums...=&threadid=728

RP
That was an excellent thread. MAN those cars are sweet...

Hope your having a blast bro...
 
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Old Apr 20, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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Meguiar's 80 Series Products and Detailer Line

Originally posted by ROUSHFAN-1
I think I have 80 ,82 ,83..? Can't remember right now..Can you explain about which is most abrasive? does it go in numerical order? Do you plan on working for Meg's or is this for fun...That's awsome you must be having a blast...Find out if Engine Kote is on the chopping block too..Thanks alot !!
Ahh, the ever so popular 80 series.

#80 (Speed Glaze)
#82 (Swirl Free Polish)
#83 (Dual-Action Cleaner Polish)
#84 (Compound Power Cleaner)
#85 (Diamond Cut Compound 2.0)

Looking specifically at a abrasive rate, #85 is the most abrasive on the scale, followed by #84, #83, #82, and then #80 (in that order). I will tell you that we worked with all of these products today and, my personal experience showed that #84 cut better than #85 and #82 worked a little better than #83 for me on this rental car that we're thrashing and then fixing.

I don't work for Meguiar's but, it's certainly a hobby that's gone nearly out of control. I do, however, moderate the message boards over at www.meguiarsonline.com and thus, they have brought me out here to Irvine to attend this 3-day class highlighting all of the Meguiar's line (marine, furniture, consumer automotive, and professional automotive) so that I may be better able to help out with questions over on MOL.

After today's demonstration and hands on training, I can honestly say that I've learned more in two days here than I have over my entire life driving vehicles (well over 12 years). I thought I had some of this stuff figured out, and I did, but only to a certain extent. Meguiar's really offers a HUGE product line; each with their own individual positive aspects for certain problems and situations.

The entire "Detailer" line is changing. All of them. Engine Coat is gone after April 26th. The new line will consist of all new names but have very similar to exact characteristics.

For example, my favorite product, Final Detail, is now going to be called Last Touch. I don't know the other specifics (as we're covering the full Detailer's line tomorrow in class) but, I know that it's changed. The change was brought about by upcoming VOC (environmental) regulations being rolled out in California (and soon the rest of the US by 2008). The other products, unfortunately, didn't meet that standard and thus, had to be reformulated. Instead of calling everything '2.0', they came up with a new naming system.

The new Detailer Line will include:

Super Degreaser, Safe D-Greaser, All Purpose Cleaner, Hyper Wash, Shampoo Plus, Glass Cleaner Concentrate, Wheel Brightener, X-Press Liquid Wax, Last Touch Spray Detailer, Body Solvent, All Season Dressing, Silicone-Free Dressing, Hyper Dressing, Accent Dressing, and Leather Cleaner & Conditioner. As many will notice immediately, Citri-Gel, Engine Coat, and the Detailer's Line Clays are gone.

I'll try to post back more information as I should have more details tomorrow after class and certification testing.

RP
 

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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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I'm going to transition this post up to General Care as it's much more suited there...
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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RP,

While you're out there, could you possibly inquire as to what quadruple jointed life form designed the bottle for NXT? I bought a bottle to experiment with last week. (Uses so far: the ex's Oxford White Escape, the kitchen stove and the Rancho shocks on the back of my FX4. Results to follow after a full test in all situations.) Is it just me, or is there absolutely no comfortable way to grip that bottle?
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Hey RockPick, that sure sounds like a great opourtunity that Meguiar's presented to you, I would love to have the chance to do something like that. I bet you're having a blast!
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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Re: R (Rock) P (Pick).....

Originally posted by TexfordD
There's a big Geologist convention here this week...You not here?
Yup....AAPG.
I am waiting for the October Cancun meeting

RockPick is another geologist.....and I am 90% of the way to purchasing the same vehicle ...right down to the color.
Now that's just weird
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by 2stroked
While you're out there, could you possibly inquire as to what quadruple jointed life form designed the bottle for NXT?
I can't say that I totally disagree with you but, I can say that I do understand why it was done the way that they did it.

In a word, MARKETING.

Keep in mind that this is a consumer product and is being offered in venues like Pep Boys, Target, and Wal-Mart (just to name a few). It is important, in today's day and age, for a product to reach out and grab the consumer as they walk by it. Meguiar's name recognition is very high and they have a good portion of the market share from a consumer standpoint. The bottle, flash, and ultimately, the product, help to ensure that Meguiar's continues to dominate the consumer line.

Hey though, it's not the bottle, it's whats inside that counts!

RP
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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Re: Re: R (Rock) P (Pick).....

Originally posted by Deemo
Yup....AAPG.
I am waiting for the October Cancun meeting

RockPick is another geologist.....and I am 90% of the way to purchasing the same vehicle ...right down to the color.
Now that's just weird
Hmm, I just realized that I probably need to join AAPG and use the Cancun meeting for my one 'training/conference trip' that I'm allowed, per year, from my employer. HA!

Did I know that you were a geologist as well Deemo? I can't remember if we've talked about that or not. Oh yeah, you've just got good taste on the same vehicle/color/King Ranch. It's just a curse of good taste!

RP
 
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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Thanks RP....I know your over at Meg's I post there on occasion..

Here's me at a show this weekend..
 
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