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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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Which wax??

There is a guy I work with that just bought a 2003 F250 Super Duty. He wants to put a good coat of wax on it. I recently bought a 2003 Mustang GT and the dealer offered to put this sealent on the paint which is suppose to last for 5 years. The main reason I did it was to get the 5 year paint warranty that comes with it since my F150 was repainted due to a paint defect. Does anyone have any idea what they put on my Mustang? It was done at Capitol Ford in Raleigh, NC. The guy I work with wants something like they but on my Mustang. He doesn't want anything he will have to apply several times a year. He gave the impression once a year was to often. I have been using Meguiars on my truck twice year or at least once a year. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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Uh oh...he's started another dreaded wax thread You're going to hear alot of opinions, but I think most people use either Mothers, Zaino, Turtle Wax, etc etc etc.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 08:36 AM
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This is really a toss up as decoy alluded to...

There are multiple folks using multiple products here. If the guy is out for long term protection, I'd recommend going with a synthetic like Klasse or Zaino but, if he doesn't mind a few more applications for a cheaper price, he may consider a premium carnauba based wax from P21S or Meguiars.

The choice is his. Everyone here is going to have an opinion on individual products.

Just make sure you go with a high quality wax. You really get what you pay for inside the auto care industry for the most part.

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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by RockPick
This is really a toss up as decoy alluded to...

There are multiple folks using multiple products here. If the guy is out for long term protection, I'd recommend going with a synthetic like Klasse or Zaino but, if he doesn't mind a few more applications for a cheaper price, he may consider a premium carnauba based wax from P21S or Meguiars.

The choice is his. Everyone here is going to have an opinion on individual products.

Just make sure you go with a high quality wax. You really get what you pay for inside the auto care industry for the most part.

RP
Ditto...
 
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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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Let me be the first to say you paid too much for such sealant. The 5 year paint warranty thing is worthless, because it is already covered under factory warranty. And today's paints will keep a vehicle looking shiney for 5 years if one were to only wash it once a month and never polish or "protect".

There are no products on the market (dealer or other retail) that protect your paint for 5 years, or even one. 6-8 months on a daily driver, I have seen and heard, but not a year or more. What your dealer did is apply a sealant such as Kalsse, Platinum, Zaino, Meguiars #20 to your paint. May even do it once per year. Total cost for them is about $50 in labor to some kid for 5 applications and $5 in materials. Now, I am not saying the products are bad, but the typical customer of such products just don't care enough about the difference a good detail can do for appearances every few months. That is fine and I meant no insult. But you are better off next time saving your money and paying a professional or recreational detailer once a year or doing nothing at all and saving your money for automatic car washes.

For your friend's truck, pick up the Klasse Twins. A coat or two of AIO and two SG will last as long as anything else on the market. Repeat once per year.
 

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Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Unless a vehicle is garage kept, and driven very little, it will be impossible to keep a vehicle in optimum condition without a good cleaning and polishing at least once a year. I have to agree with APT, that most of those "lifetime warranty products" are not worth much. If they were, all the Car Care products manufacturers (like Meguiar's) would all be going out of business, or developing their own "lifetime systems" to stay in business.

Anyhow, it sounds like your friend doesn't want to spend any time taking care of his vehicle.............. and there is certainly nothing wrong with that. After all, it's just a hunk of metal and plastic.

That being the case, I would advise him to simply wash the vehicle, or have it washed as frequently as possible. Even putting Klasse on the vehicle once a year will not completely do the trick, as the vehicle will need to be cleaned and polished at some point. Putting anything over top of contaminants is as bad as doing nothing.

Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 04:09 AM
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After all, it's just a hunk of metal and plastic.


That is just Blasphemous!! I can't believe that came out of your mouth Boss. You had better go console your truck before she decides to let you walk awhile to reflect on what you just said.



Anyhoo, I gotta agree with the masses on this one. My baby gets a fresh coat of Z and thourough top to bottom one a month on top of her 1-2 washes a week. But Big Red is also my daily driver 4 months old and a touch over 9K on her but still looks fresh from line (actually better than fresh from the line).
 
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Thanks for all the replies. I am going to print this out and let him decide.

APT,
You are probably right about the sealent being a rip off, but the dealer told me that the paint warranty was only 1 year on new vehicles. I thought the paint was considered part of the 3 year bumper to bumper. I only did it because of the problems I had with my F150 like I said in my earlier post. I talked the dealer into doing the exterior and the interior treatment for the price of the exterior. I also got a 3 year warranty on my leather interior. So they didn't screw me to bad. I am planning on treating the leather at least every 3 months and probably waxing every 6 months. The Mustang is a convertible and sits in the garage most of the time unless the weather is nice since the F150 is my daily driver.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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It was probably Permaplate or perhaps something with Teflon, both of which are overhyped.

I decided on Zaino (for ease of application), but anything is a great choice and much much less expensive....and no hype
 
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 11:47 AM
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JOHNSON505

Everyone has their own experiences on which to base value. If you found it valueable, then I cannot argue with that.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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Originally posted by Perceptron
... Teflon, ...overhyped...
Couldn't agree with you more.

Even Dupont, the maker of Teflon, says that they have no proof that Teflon improves the protection with a wax...
 
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