Dualliner's gaining popularity
Congrats to all on your liners... but I have to say nothing is going to beat Line-x. I ain't a rep just a very satisfied customer. Ok maybe I spent $100 - $120 more then you all but I have a LIFETIME, NATIONWIDE warranty. My truck is my mistress and gets nothing but the best after the $$ I spent getting her. Dualliner I am sure is better then nothing but sure ain't the best. Just my $.02 my brotha's.
Originally Posted by FX4Joe
Congrats to all on your liners... but I have to say nothing is going to beat Line-x. I ain't a rep just a very satisfied customer. Ok maybe I spent $100 - $120 more then you all but I have a LIFETIME, NATIONWIDE warranty. My truck is my mistress and gets nothing but the best after the $$ I spent getting her. Dualliner I am sure is better then nothing but sure ain't the best. Just my $.02 my brotha's.

Originally Posted by hikerrich
I never knew I was so innovative. I've used a drop in with a rubber mat on top for over 20 years. Looks like this place has improved upon the spray in with the fender and front cab covers. This seems to be the places I see the dents with the spray ins I've noticed. $350 seems like a lot of money to me for what it is. However, I have an even harder time understanding the higher prices of the spray in liners. To each his own. I think I paid $110 for the tuff liner and around $30 for the rubber mat on top of it. This has served my needs well for almost 10 years in my present truck.
Rich
Rich
I like your idea.
I've been thinking about doing that, but the only problem is that I haul brick and stone in mine, so it'll probably tear up fairly quickly. I'll give it a shot though.
metcalfe,
I understand where you're coming from. I don't see much, if any difference in my set-up and the new rubber mat/plastic front and sides. It may be the greatest thing to hit the market in years, but for me, I'll spend that money elsewhere. I will say this, my father in law owns a masonry company and I have spent many days pulling labor for him in the summers when somebody either can't work, or won't work. I've hauled tons of brick, block, and field rock in the ten years I've owned this truck. Never once has the liner, or mat let me down. Granted, I don't try to tear things up. I don't see if I can bounce blocks off the fender wells and them not break, and stuff like that. I also load and haul around 20 loads of oak and hickory every spring and summer to get ready for the next winter. I don't burn near this much, but friends and family do and I own a truck......Lucky me. IMO spray-ins are not for the guy that throws things in the back of his truck. My father has a spray-in and his bed is dented all over. I'm sure somebody will come on and tell me I'm wrong, but I've lived and worked on farms and loaded trucks for most of my 43 years and I know what has worked for me. Good luck to you.
Rich
I understand where you're coming from. I don't see much, if any difference in my set-up and the new rubber mat/plastic front and sides. It may be the greatest thing to hit the market in years, but for me, I'll spend that money elsewhere. I will say this, my father in law owns a masonry company and I have spent many days pulling labor for him in the summers when somebody either can't work, or won't work. I've hauled tons of brick, block, and field rock in the ten years I've owned this truck. Never once has the liner, or mat let me down. Granted, I don't try to tear things up. I don't see if I can bounce blocks off the fender wells and them not break, and stuff like that. I also load and haul around 20 loads of oak and hickory every spring and summer to get ready for the next winter. I don't burn near this much, but friends and family do and I own a truck......Lucky me. IMO spray-ins are not for the guy that throws things in the back of his truck. My father has a spray-in and his bed is dented all over. I'm sure somebody will come on and tell me I'm wrong, but I've lived and worked on farms and loaded trucks for most of my 43 years and I know what has worked for me. Good luck to you.
Rich
I don't disagree that a mat on a drop in is functional for some people. I used to do it myself, then I found a better product. For most guys spending a big piece of their paycheck on a truck, they want to make it look good, not just functional. And as I have said before, I lost more than a few mats off the top.
Definitely agree about the sprays - I have never understood why they caught on. I tried a bunch of them thinking I was missing something, but found that they were all what I believed them to be. I've told that a bunch of times, so anyone interested can go check it out.
Definitely agree about the sprays - I have never understood why they caught on. I tried a bunch of them thinking I was missing something, but found that they were all what I believed them to be. I've told that a bunch of times, so anyone interested can go check it out.
When I bought my truck, I bought a Dee Zee Truck Bed Mat for $39.99 and a Pendaliner Bedliner for $119.99 and I put the bed mat under the bedliner. I have always done this, as it keeps the hard plastic bedliner from making noise against the metal bed of the truck.
It was hilarious. I stopped at Tractor Supply Company on the way to get the bedliner installed and bought the bed mat. I unrolled it and installed it in the bed of the truck, then drove to the place where I was going to get my bedliner. They took my truck to the back and dragged the bed mat out of the bed to install the bedliner. I had to tell the guy that I wanted it under the bedliner. I guess he was going to put it on top of the bedliner.
The way I see it, I got a great deal. I got a complete bedliner and bed mat for around $160, which is half of what you guys are spending on the Dualiner.
It was hilarious. I stopped at Tractor Supply Company on the way to get the bedliner installed and bought the bed mat. I unrolled it and installed it in the bed of the truck, then drove to the place where I was going to get my bedliner. They took my truck to the back and dragged the bed mat out of the bed to install the bedliner. I had to tell the guy that I wanted it under the bedliner. I guess he was going to put it on top of the bedliner.
The way I see it, I got a great deal. I got a complete bedliner and bed mat for around $160, which is half of what you guys are spending on the Dualiner.
Wow, that's a way I've never heard anyone do one before. The reason for the mat on top would be to stop sliding. They actually make an under-liner for the drop ins (sells for around $50) that does what you did, except it protects the paint on the wheelwells. The reason to protect under a liner is to protect the paint and the reason guys throw a mat on top is to stop sliding.
For $160, you did neither. In fact, paying $160 for both, you have purchased the least expensive variation of both items, a thin drop in and a thin mat. That's like saying I have a plastic dinner plate and a rubber place mat, so I have "the same thing" as a DualLiner... they are sort of similar materials.
So you have created the first none solution. So your $30-40,000 truck has close to the worst of everything and it only cost $160. This is exactly like the guy doing a Herculiner thinking he got "the same thing" as a Line-X. While I would never do a spray in liner again, I understand why guys do them and I see the difference between DIY and the real thing.
Not trying to be a jerk, but you did a great job of making me laugh this afternoon.
This thread has been grabbed by people who want to say they "have the same thing"... maybe try the real thing before you think you have "the same thing".
For $160, you did neither. In fact, paying $160 for both, you have purchased the least expensive variation of both items, a thin drop in and a thin mat. That's like saying I have a plastic dinner plate and a rubber place mat, so I have "the same thing" as a DualLiner... they are sort of similar materials.
So you have created the first none solution. So your $30-40,000 truck has close to the worst of everything and it only cost $160. This is exactly like the guy doing a Herculiner thinking he got "the same thing" as a Line-X. While I would never do a spray in liner again, I understand why guys do them and I see the difference between DIY and the real thing.
Not trying to be a jerk, but you did a great job of making me laugh this afternoon.
This thread has been grabbed by people who want to say they "have the same thing"... maybe try the real thing before you think you have "the same thing".
Have you seen those liners that they sell for $50? They are like a sheet of thin styrofoam and don't look like they are worth $5. The bed mat I put under the bedliner weighs about 50 lbs and is about 1/2" thick. It absorbs the shock of anything I throw into the bed of my truck and the bedliner doesn't rattle around. I have seen the Dualiner and personally think it's a POS. For $350, you could have had a spray-in liner installed. Instead, you chose something that I don't even think is comparable to what I have and paid $160 for. To each his own, I guess.
Originally Posted by hikerrich
$350 seems like a lot of money to me for what it is. However, I have an even harder time understanding the higher prices of the spray in liners. To each his own. I think I paid $110 for the tuff liner and around $30 for the rubber mat on top of it. This has served my needs well for almost 10 years in my present truck.
Rich
Rich

DEE ZEE BED MAT/SKID MAT, BLACK -- Made From High Strength Nyracord, Features 3/8" Thick Cord-Enhanced Rubber Compound
Dualliner has 3/8" ZeroSkid floor.
Last edited by freekyFX4; Mar 18, 2008 at 05:29 PM.
I like the fact that I can take out the DualLiner rubber floor, clean, inspect the bed, and put it all back together again in about 10 minutes without taking half the truck apart.
Bryndon,
Being a little harsh on the guy, aren't you?
I agree with you on the fact that I have the rubber mat on top of my liner more to control things sliding around. I, also think it helps when throwing heavier items into the back of the bed, more of a rebound control, and to dampen noise. To a guy like me, saying you want the bed of your $30-40k truck to look good is ridiculous. I don't know of many, if any people who buy a truck to worry about how the bed looks. I'm not talking about show trucks here. I'm talking about the average guy, like myself, who buys his truck to haul and tow with. Granted, I'm not saying I beat my truck to death, I just use it as a truck. I appreciate the fact that you have a product to sell. I hope you do well with it for as long as you like, but you don't need to talk down to the guys who do something different, and say things like "have the same thing and maybe try the real thing". Whether you were trying to be a "jerk" or not means nothing to me. I caught what you meant real quick and think you're wrong. I think you meant to be a jerk and did a good job of it in a passive-aggressive way. If you're going to take things personal and be a jerk, then be one and feel good about it. No apologies.
Rich
Being a little harsh on the guy, aren't you?
I agree with you on the fact that I have the rubber mat on top of my liner more to control things sliding around. I, also think it helps when throwing heavier items into the back of the bed, more of a rebound control, and to dampen noise. To a guy like me, saying you want the bed of your $30-40k truck to look good is ridiculous. I don't know of many, if any people who buy a truck to worry about how the bed looks. I'm not talking about show trucks here. I'm talking about the average guy, like myself, who buys his truck to haul and tow with. Granted, I'm not saying I beat my truck to death, I just use it as a truck. I appreciate the fact that you have a product to sell. I hope you do well with it for as long as you like, but you don't need to talk down to the guys who do something different, and say things like "have the same thing and maybe try the real thing". Whether you were trying to be a "jerk" or not means nothing to me. I caught what you meant real quick and think you're wrong. I think you meant to be a jerk and did a good job of it in a passive-aggressive way. If you're going to take things personal and be a jerk, then be one and feel good about it. No apologies.
Rich
Originally Posted by hikerrich
Bryndon,
Being a little harsh on the guy, aren't you?
I agree with you on the fact that I have the rubber mat on top of my liner more to control things sliding around. I, also think it helps when throwing heavier items into the back of the bed, more of a rebound control, and to dampen noise. To a guy like me, saying you want the bed of your $30-40k truck to look good is ridiculous. I don't know of many, if any people who buy a truck to worry about how the bed looks. I'm not talking about show trucks here. I'm talking about the average guy, like myself, who buys his truck to haul and tow with. Granted, I'm not saying I beat my truck to death, I just use it as a truck. I appreciate the fact that you have a product to sell. I hope you do well with it for as long as you like, but you don't need to talk down to the guys who do something different, and say things like "have the same thing and maybe try the real thing". Whether you were trying to be a "jerk" or not means nothing to me. I caught what you meant real quick and think you're wrong. I think you meant to be a jerk and did a good job of it in a passive-aggressive way. If you're going to take things personal and be a jerk, then be one and feel good about it. No apologies.
Rich
Being a little harsh on the guy, aren't you?
I agree with you on the fact that I have the rubber mat on top of my liner more to control things sliding around. I, also think it helps when throwing heavier items into the back of the bed, more of a rebound control, and to dampen noise. To a guy like me, saying you want the bed of your $30-40k truck to look good is ridiculous. I don't know of many, if any people who buy a truck to worry about how the bed looks. I'm not talking about show trucks here. I'm talking about the average guy, like myself, who buys his truck to haul and tow with. Granted, I'm not saying I beat my truck to death, I just use it as a truck. I appreciate the fact that you have a product to sell. I hope you do well with it for as long as you like, but you don't need to talk down to the guys who do something different, and say things like "have the same thing and maybe try the real thing". Whether you were trying to be a "jerk" or not means nothing to me. I caught what you meant real quick and think you're wrong. I think you meant to be a jerk and did a good job of it in a passive-aggressive way. If you're going to take things personal and be a jerk, then be one and feel good about it. No apologies.
Rich
I thought he was just some snob who really likes his dual liner and had to justify the cost to himself by putting someone else down....turns out he's a representative of dual liner. that's a bad approach to sell a product.
Originally Posted by hikerrich
I agree with you on the fact that I have the rubber mat on top of my liner more to control things sliding around. I, also think it helps when throwing heavier items into the back of the bed, more of a rebound control, and to dampen noise.
freeky,
Glad we have inspired you. I don't think you'll have to worry about denting the floor of your bed any after another mat is installed. I've never put a dent in mine with the single mat over the liner. You'll like the fact that items don't slide around on you either. We had a liner in a truck one time that had a non-slip rough surface to it. This was supposed to prevent things from sliding around. After about a year of hauling wood, rock, feed, and bales of hay it was completely smooth and worthless. It had been sprayed on and was absolute h@#$ to climb into the back of the truck on. Felt like 40 grit sandpaper on your hands. Anyway, it's your truck, spend your money however you like.
Rich
Glad we have inspired you. I don't think you'll have to worry about denting the floor of your bed any after another mat is installed. I've never put a dent in mine with the single mat over the liner. You'll like the fact that items don't slide around on you either. We had a liner in a truck one time that had a non-slip rough surface to it. This was supposed to prevent things from sliding around. After about a year of hauling wood, rock, feed, and bales of hay it was completely smooth and worthless. It had been sprayed on and was absolute h@#$ to climb into the back of the truck on. Felt like 40 grit sandpaper on your hands. Anyway, it's your truck, spend your money however you like.
Rich


