I said: "so they say"

Read anout the stall converter in the link I posted. It says "up to 50 rear wheel horsepower" The E-fans are suppose to add 20? or was it like... 10 or 15? I just said 50+10=60, and then 60+ about 60 = 120...?

 

I feel I had the right to throw a "bitch fit"
You guys are being rediculous

I posted one little sentence, not thinking anything of it, and this huge thing breaks out about how stupid I am. If I would have known that this was a thread on mods and HP, I would have got out a piece of paper, calculated everything, found out what my stock rear-wheel hp was, maybe gotten a Dyno before I posted!!! lol. Geez

Im sorry, did I say minimum wage job? I meant Job, period. If you work for someone else, you are making less than they do. Id like to be that guy doing the hiring

I dont need your "LIFE Lessons". Im already going to be very successful. I am very level-headed believe it or not. I get along with everyone. My life is basically planned out for me. After I graduate with a major in Economics, I will start an enternship, flying all over the world w/ my dads business partner. After that, I am going to be partners with my brother and father, He will give me about 5MILL. To start my own investing and to pitch in on deals with them. I will snow-ball that money by using investing and partnering up on Developemnt deals. Exactly what my dad does.

The only difference between me in person and on this forum, is that I usually just walk away from opinionated jerks such as well..... you. Here, I didnt necessarily try to defend myself, but tell you guys to lay-off. JUst didnt happen. I guess you felt a need to put others down.

As for saying that i did not ask questions, I asked at the very begining if I was right, and no one corrected me. untill later posts after you guys had already started hounding me. Since no one correct4ed me, I thought I may have been right, or at least close...[/B]


"uhhhh.......... stock 5.4 f150 supercab has 300, right?

intake... meh.... 15hp
tbs.. none
Headers... I prolly got 10.
Diablosport... 25 (best mod. SUUCCHHH a big sidderence)
Dual exhaust with x-pipe.... meh.... 10?
4:56 gears. No hp GAIN, but more of it to the rear wheels. Id say... 20? maybe 30?

THats a modest... 80hp? 300+80 = 380????"

NOTICE ALL OF THE QUESTION MARKS????? QUESTION MARK MEANS... CORRECT ME IF IM WRONG

What is wrong with this post?!?! I stated what I thought, with question marks in case I was wrong. I STILL got negetive responses!

AND, INSTEAD OF POSTING CORRECTIONS, GIVING ME TRUE INFORMATIN, YOU DECIDED TO CHIME IN ON HOW STUPID I AM.

Im actaully quite smart, straight A's with a major in Economics @ the #5 school in the US. (Cal Poly) Forgot where I saw that statistic, but if you hound me on this too, ill be glad to search for it.

 

I WOULD have listened, and corrected my thoughts if people would have replied with the correct information, in a "mature, Im sorry, but you are wrong" kind of way. INstead it was... more of a ... "Your f ucking stupid" response. SO I felt like I had to defend myself. As I am STILL doing.

I was wrong, I know that now. THe only way to truely know is with a Dyno. You are at 250hp minus the gears and headers. So, we are probably about the same? because of my 35's and you have the custom tunes. That still falls within my guestimate of 250-280. (Minus the 100 from the 300 as I thought 300 was to the rear wheels)

On a DYNO, dont tires not make a huge difference, since they are sitting on rollers? NOtice the question mark?

 

SO, I know that I was wrong. I knew I wasnt RIGHT from the beggining... they were just very rough guestimates, and didint know people were going to quote my on a simple statement.

But, I admit that I was wrong and now im a little more well-informed. I was told alot of things I already know, you just assumed I didnt know... but oh well.

Do you guys at least admit that you responded wrong? You dont have to think someone is stupid just because they dont know something. You didnt know Any of this at one point too. Im POSSITIVE you didnt learn it by people telling you your retarded for saying otherwise.

Read up to post #22. Everything was fine, I was just explaining what I thought and my reasons behind those thoughts. THen, the real problem began, NCSU's statements which I felt was pretty out-of-line.

 

lol this thread went down hill. Sorry for my part, I'm just trying to get accross that rear end gears do not add or free up power. They just allow you to utilize the power you already have at the right time. Sorta like a good set of racing slicks or torque converter. Not like exhaust and intakes which truely add and/or fee up power. I think you know this, but your wording still sounds like you're saying gears will free up power. I'm not attacking you, just trying to help. =)
I like your sig picture BTW

 

Seeee, now beever is the perfect example of a mature, informative person.

lol


THanks beaver. Naw, I didnt find your post offensive at all.

Yup, thats exactly what gears do. My theory is that since it takes more cranks of the engine per one turn of the tire, it makes the engine work easier for one turn, do you think this would add any power at all?

As for the stall converter, I am pretty sure, but not positive... I spent about 3 hours reading about them one night. lol. But... THe stall converter isnt for the sole purpose of the stall-speed which puts power to the rear wheels at a higher rpm, giving that sudden power. An aftermarket converter is more effcient, allowing less slipping and thus more power to the rear wheels, right?

Or is that completely wrong? I read that on the Converter's website, so It may just be Marketing?

 

ya, that sounds right on the converter. Like a good clutch in a manual. less slippage allowing for less drivetrain loss.

 

yup yup.

If you plan on getting one, Ive heard these are the best for the newer f-150's and plan on geting one myself. The only downside is... they are a pricey $900 I believe....

BUT, if it actually does give the 50hp they claim, it would definitely be worth it in my opinion...

http://www.converter.com/stallion.htm

:o

 

Put in the DYNO! that'll end all of the expected #s speech. When I knew less than I do now, I thought the same thing. The whole spill dealers claim about it ads X amount of power is primarily a sales tool. So the consumer will think...That cold air says 15-20, the programmer says 20-25, thats close to 50hps...In reality...NOPE. Primary example is a NOS kit. Run it on the dyno, get a baseline, put a 100 HP shop on it, and the numbers will tell the tale. Unless you have a diesel I dont see those list of mods giving you anywhere near 100hps.

 

This, to a greater extent, explains your attitude. I'm sorry that at your age your life is already planned out for you. You're going to miss out on a lot of the best parts. Enjoy snow-balling with your father.

Ok, in that original post, the very beginning where you say "uhhhh.......... stock 5.4 f150 supercab has 300, right?", that "uhhh......." means one of two things. #1, you think we are all stupid and that fact that a stock 5.4 F150 has 300HP is common knowledge and we all someone missed out on it. #2, The fact that you actually typed out "uhhh......" is meant to show that you are dimwitted and slow. Much like Bubba from Forrest Gump, however, initially we gave you the benefit of the doubt and assumed you were just being a punk kid, while in reality you just were ignorant. (I love using that word since it seems to bother you so much.)

By the way,
ig·no·rant – adjective
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man.
2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics.
3. uninformed; unaware.
4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.

I continue to stand by my original statement. It wasn't meant as an insult to your intelligence.

Aren't you 17? So you're just finishing, what, your 1st semester?

Anyways, on to your thoughts on an aftermarket converter.

Ok, lets think about this one logically. The only way you'll 'gain' HP with this mod is by its overall reduction of drivetrain loss. Based on a stock F-150, 4WD, auto trans, the accepted drivetrain loss is ~30%. (~ means approximately)

So, ~300HP at the flywheel minus ~30% drivetrain loss, (300-(~30*300)=
(300-~90)=~210 RWHP. So your total drivetrain loss is ~90HP. So if they're claiming a 50 RWHP gain, they're claiming to reduce your total powertrain losses by ~55%. So your overall DTL would only be ~13%.

If you think a single piece of equipment can accomplish that, go ahead and spend the money. Besides, pretty soon you'll have "5MILL" of daddy's dollars in the bank, so what's a measly 900 now?

- NCSU

 

hey beaver your overlay really looks like it says beaner i couldnt stop laughing im mexican so that would look kinda cool you gave me an idea

 

i love this thread. i can't wait for fordboy gets out of school today/.

 

hahaha i cant believe this little quarrel is still going on.

Fordboy you have certainly shown us that we are much lower then you on the scale of humanity. dammit if i hadn't chose a career that i loved i could have gone ahead and made a few cool million off my dad. oh well.

you have shown us just how truly arrogant you really are, and its pretty sad. NCSU is a smart guy and hopefully youll take some of his advice.

 

LOL you're the second guy on here to say that. Everytime I look at that picture I see it now