Please educate me: Why are you wanting to go to clear lenses?? Is this just for looks? Seems like a lot of hassle and potential for tickets that isn't really worth the expense of the clear lenses.

My 2 cents worth.

What is really cool is the flourescent lights that are put under trucks!

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1999 XLT SC, 4x4, Long Bed, 4.6 with manual trans. Deep wedgewood blue



[This message has been edited by Huckster (edited 05-18-99).]

 

Huckster, Those arent legal in TX either.........good luck

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1998 F-150 sc/flareside, 4.6,auto,3.55s,airaid system w/k&n,flowmater w/duals out the back side 45*, superchip, blk nerf bars, bed liner and mat, bug shield and window rain guards, cls III reciever, tinted windows, cd changer,Atlas polished rims w/265-75-16 pirelli at/scorpions,oxford white.

 

DAVENSA, Just a question about the flourescent/neon type lights put under vehicles. Are they illegeal period!, or Illegal to use whild driving, but ok to use while parked? Don't want to discourage people from buying these for show and not go. I believe that is the way the law is in WI. Thank you for your input, it is nice to have someone on the list to bounce these types of questions off of.
Jeff

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1999 F150 Lariat
Reg cab Short box Styleside
5.4L 3.55ls
Deep Wedgwood Blue/Silver
Lund Interceptor hood shield, VentVisors, Class III hitch, Ford molded mud guards

 

JA_Stang 86,

I have purple neon under my truck now but I only use it for shows and in parking lots. When I first got the kit about 5 years ago I had it on my slammed Nissan pick-up. I talked with a MD state trooper before I ordered it. He told me that they couldn't be red or blue and that the tubes couldn't be visible. After hearing that I ordered purple put them on and used them all of the time. I even used to get thumbs up from local and state police. Then all that changed. I got pulled over about two years later and got a warning about them. When I asked why. The reply was that drug dealers are using the lights to indicate whether they have drugs to sell or not.

So when I got my new truck I put them on but only use them in "appropriate" places. I think they really add a great look to the truck and I got the music interface to make them flash to the beat of the music.

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dseibert,
'97 XLT S/C, 4.6L, 3-4 Bell Tech Drop, K&N, Leer Cap, 17" American Racing wheels
Dark Toreador Red...you know Maroon!
(see page 5 of the Owner's Gallery bottom picture)

 

JA_Stang 86,

I have purple neon under my truck now but I only use it for shows and in parking lots. When I first got the kit about 5 years ago I had it on my slammed Nissan pick-up. I talked with a MD state trooper before I ordered it. He told me that they couldn't be red or blue and that the tubes couldn't be visible. After hearing that I ordered purple put them on and used them all of the time. I even used to get thumbs up from local and state police. Then all that changed. I got pulled over about two years later and got a warning about them. When I asked why. The reply was that drug dealers are using the lights to indicate whether they have drugs to sell or not.

So when I got my new truck I put them on but only use them in "appropriate" places. I think they really add a great look to the truck and I got the music interface to make them flash to the beat of the music.

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dseibert,
'97 XLT S/C, 4.6L, 3-4 Bell Tech Drop, K&N, Leer Cap, 17" American Racing wheels
Dark Toreador Red...you know Maroon!
(see page 5 of the Owner's Gallery bottom picture)

 

JA_Stang 86,

I have purple neon under my truck now but I only use it for shows and in parking lots. When I first got the kit about 5 years ago I had it on my slammed Nissan pick-up. I talked with a MD state trooper before I ordered it. He told me that they couldn't be red or blue and that the tubes couldn't be visible. After hearing that I ordered purple put them on and used them all of the time. I even used to get thumbs up from local and state police. Then all that changed. I got pulled over about two years later and got a warning about them. When I asked why. The reply was that drug dealers are using the lights to indicate whether they have drugs to sell or not.

So when I got my new truck I put them on but only use them in "appropriate" places. I think they really add a great look to the truck and I got the music interface to make them flash to the beat of the music.

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dseibert,
'97 XLT S/C, 4.6L, 3-4 Bell Tech Drop, K&N, Leer Cap, 17" American Racing wheels
Dark Toreador Red...you know Maroon!
(see page 5 of the Owner's Gallery bottom picture)

 

Sorry for the triple post. It said that the server couldn't be found but I guess it decided to put it up three times.

 

I've got them. I've been pulled over (in Texas) for lisence sticker and the officer never mentioned the lights. They look best on white trucks though.

 

I think that's license. Hard to believe I am about to graduate from college with an engineering degree.

 

First off, I know this is a long post so be paitent. I decided to do some research for all you folks who are looking at the clear turn signal and tail lights. What I have compiled is taken from http://www.leginfo.ca.gov . From what I have heard, most states work within the same guidelines as the California Laws (I think CA folks are more restrictive than most). These are cut and paste from their web site but are very good information.

Please take 10 minutes and read this, it may save you from getting a ticket.


Randy


California Law on Turn Signals


24951. (a) Any vehicle may be equipped with a lamp-type turn signal
system capable of clearly indicating any intention to turn either to
the right or to the left.
(b) The following vehicles shall be equipped with a lamp-type turn
signal system meeting the requirements of this chapter.
(1) Motortrucks, truck tractors, buses and passenger vehicles,
other than motorcycles, manufactured and first registered on or after
January 1, 1958.
(2) Trailers and semitrailers manufactured and first registered
between December 31, 1957, and January 1, 1969, having a gross weight
of 6,000 pounds or more.
(3) Trailers and semitrailers 80 or more inches in width
manufactured on or after January 1, 1969.
(4) Motorcycles manufactured and first registered on or after
January 1, 1973, except motor-driven cycles whose speed attainable in
one mile is 30 miles per hour or less.
The requirements of this subdivision shall not apply to special
mobile equipment, or auxiliary dollies.
(c) Turn signal lamps on vehicles manufactured on or after January
1, 1969, shall be mounted not lower than 15 inches.


24952. A lamp-type turn signal shall be plainly visible and
understandable in normal sunlight and at nighttime from a distance of
at least 300 feet to the front and rear of the vehicle, except that
turn signal lamps on vehicles of a size required to be equipped with
clearance lamps shall be visible from a distance of 500 feet during
such times

24953. (a) Any turn signal system used to give a signal of
intention to turn right or left shall project a flashing white or
amber light visible to the front and a flashing red or amber light
visible to the rear.
(b) Side-mounted turn signal lamps projecting a flashing amber
light to either side may be used to supplement the front and rear
turn signals. Side-mounted turn signal lamps mounted to the rear of
the center of the vehicle may project a flashing red light no part of
which shall be visible from the front.
(c) In addition to any required turn signal lamps, any vehicle may
be equipped with supplemental rear turn signal lamps mounted to the
rear of the rearmost portion of the driver's seat in its rearmost
position.
(d) In addition to any required or authorized turn signal lamps,
any vehicle may be equipped with supplemental rear turn signal lamps
that are mounted on, or are an integral portion of, the outside
rearview mirrors, so long as the lamps flash simultaneously with the
rear turn signal lamps, the light emitted from the lamps is projected
only to the rear of the vehicle and is not visible to the driver
under normal operating conditions, except for a visual indicator
designed to allow monitoring of lamp operation, and the lamps do not
project a glaring light.

California Law on Rear Lighting Equipment

24600. During darkness every motor vehicle which is not in
combination with any other vehicle and every vehicle at the end of a
combination of vehicles shall be equipped with lighted taillamps
mounted on the rear as follows:
(a) Every vehicle shall be equipped with one or more taillamps.
(b) Every vehicle, other than a motorcycle, manufactured and first
registered on or after January 1, 1958, shall be equipped with not
less than two taillamps, except that trailers and semitrailers
manufactured after July 23, 1973, which are less than 30 inches wide,
may be equipped with one taillamp which shall be mounted at or near
the vertical centerline of the vehicles. If a vehicle is equipped
with two taillamps, they shall be mounted as specified in subdivision
(d).
(c) Every vehicle or vehicle at the end of a combination of
vehicles, subject to subdivision (a) of Section 22406 shall be
equipped with not less than two taillamps.
(d) When two taillamps are required, at least one shall be mounted
at the left and one at the right side respectively at the same
level.
(e) Taillamps shall be red in color and shall be plainly visible
from all distances within 500 feet to the rear except that taillamps
on vehicles manufactured after January 1, 1969, shall be plainly
visible from all distances within 1,000 feet to the rear.
(f) Taillamps on vehicles manufactured on or after January 1,
1969, shall be mounted not lower than 15 inches nor higher than 72
inches, except that a tow truck, in addition to being equipped with
the required taillamps, may also be equipped with two taillamps which
may be mounted not lower than 15 inches nor higher than the maximum
allowable vehicle height and as far forward as the rearmost portion
of the driver's seat in the rearmost position. The additional
taillamps on a tow truck shall be lighted whenever the headlamps are
lighted.


24601. Either the taillamp or a separate lamp shall be so
constructed and placed as to illuminate with a white light the rear
license plate during darkness and render it clearly legible from a
distance of 50 feet to the rear. When the rear license plate is
illuminated by a lamp other than a required taillamp, the two lamps
shall be turned on or off only by the same control switch at all
times.


24602. (a) Any vehicle may be equipped with not more than two red
fog taillamps mounted on the rear which may be lighted, in addition
to the required taillamps, only when atmospheric conditions, such as
fog, rain, snow, smoke, or dust, reduce the daytime or nighttime
visibility of other vehicles to less than 500 feet.
(b) Such lamps shall be installed as follows:
(1) When two lamps are installed, one shall be mounted at the left
side and one at the right side at the same level and as close as
practical to the sides. When one lamp is installed, it shall be as
close as practical to the left side.
(2) The lamps shall be mounted not lower than 15 inches nor higher
than 60 inches.
(3) The edge of the lens of the lamp shall be no closer than four
inches from the edge of the lens of any stoplamp.
(4) The lamps shall be wired so they can be turned on only when
the headlamps are on and shall have a switch that allows them to be
turned off when the headlamps are on.
(5) A nonflashing amber pilot light which is lighted when the
lamps are turned on shall be mounted in a location readily visible to
the driver.

24603. Every motor vehicle which is not in combination with any
other vehicle and every vehicle at the end of a combination of
vehicles shall at all times be equipped with stoplamps mounted on the
rear as follows:
(a) Every such vehicle shall be equipped with one or more
stoplamps.
(b) Every such vehicle, other than a motorcycle, manufactured and
first registered on or after January 1, 1958, shall be equipped with
two stoplamps, except that trailers and semitrailers manufactured
after July 23, 1973, which are less than 30 inches wide, may be
equipped with one stoplamp which shall be mounted at or near the
vertical centerline of the trailer. If such vehicle is equipped with
two stoplamps, they shall be mounted as specified in subdivision
(d).
(c) Except as provided in subdivision (h), stoplamps on vehicles
manufactured on or after January 1, 1969, shall be mounted not lower
than 15 inches nor higher than 72 inches, except that a tow truck, in
addition to being equipped with the required stoplamps, may also be
equipped with two stoplamps which may be mounted not lower than 15
inches nor higher than the maximum allowable vehicle height and as
far forward as the rearmost portion of the driver's seat in the
rearmost position.
(d) Where two stoplamps are required, at least one shall be
mounted at the left and one at the right side, respectively, at the
same level.
(e) Stoplamps on vehicles manufactured on or after January 1,
1979, shall emit a red light. Stoplamps on vehicles manufactured
before January 1, 1979, shall emit a red or yellow light. All
stoplamps shall be plainly visible and understandable from a distance
of 300 feet to the rear both during normal sunlight and at
nighttime, except that stoplamps on a vehicle of a size required to
be equipped with clearance lamps shall be visible from a distance of
500 feet during such times.
(f) Stoplamps shall be activated upon application of the service
(foot) brake and the hand control head for air, vacuum, or electric
brakes. In addition, all stoplamps may be activated by a mechanical
device designed to function only upon sudden release of the
accelerator while the vehicle is in motion. Stoplamps on vehicles
equipped with a manual transmission may be manually activated by a
mechanical device when the vehicle is downshifted if the device is
automatically rendered inoperative while the vehicle is accelerating.

(g) Any vehicle may be equipped with supplemental stoplamps
mounted to the rear of the rearmost portion of the driver's seat in
its rearmost position in addition to the lamps required to be mounted
on the rear of the vehicle. Supplemental stoplamps installed after
January 1, 1979, shall be red in color and mounted not lower than 15
inches above the roadway. The supplemental stoplamp on that side of
a vehicle toward which a turn will be made may flash as part of the
supplemental turn signal lamp.
A supplemental stoplamp may be mounted inside the rear window of a
vehicle, if it is mounted at the centerline of the vehicle and is
constructed and mounted so as to prevent any light, other than a
monitorial indicator emitted from the device, either direct or
reflected, from being visible to the driver.
(h) Any supplemental stoplamp installed after January 1, 1987,
shall comply with Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 108 (49
C.F.R. 571.108). Any vehicle equipped with a stoplamp which complies
with the federal motor vehicle safety standards applicable to that
make and model vehicle shall conform to that applicable safety
standard unless modified to comply with the federal motor vehicle
safety standard designated in this subdivision.

24604. Whenever the load upon any vehicle extends, or whenever any
integral part of any vehicle projects, to the rear four feet or more
beyond the bed or body of the vehicle, there shall be displayed at
the extreme end of the load or projecting part of the vehicle during
darkness, in addition to the required taillamp, two red lights with a
bulb rated not in excess of six candlepower plainly visible from a
distance of at least 500 feet to the sides and rear. At any other
time there shall be displayed at the extreme end of the load or
projecting part of the vehicle a solid red or fluorescent orange flag
or cloth not less than 12 inches square.

24605. (a) A tow truck or an automobile dismantler's tow vehicle
used to tow a vehicle shall be equipped with and carry a taillamp, a
stoplamp, turn signal lamps, and a portable electrical extension cord
for use in displaying the lamps on the rear of a towed vehicle.
(b) Whenever a tow truck or an automobile dismantler's tow vehicle
is towing a vehicle and a stoplamp and turn signal lamps cannot be
lighted and displayed on the rear of the towed vehicle, the operator
of the tow truck or the automobile dismantler's tow vehicle shall, by
means of an extension cord, display to the rear a stoplamp and turn
signal lamps mounted on the towed vehicle, except as provided in
subdivision (c). During darkness, if a taillamp on the towed vehicle
cannot be lighted, the operator of the tow truck or the automobile
dismantler's tow vehicle shall, by means of an extension cord,
display to the rear a taillamp mounted on the towed vehicle. No
other lighting equipment need be displayed on the towed vehicle.
(c) Whenever any motor vehicle is towing another motor vehicle,
stoplamps and turn signal lamps are not required on the towed motor
vehicle, but only if a stoplamp and a turn signal lamp on each side
of the rear of the towing vehicle is plainly visible to the rear of
the towed vehicle. This subdivision does not apply to
driveaway-towaway operations.

24606. (a) Every motor vehicle, other than a motorcycle, of a type
subject to registration and manufactured on and after January 1,
1969, shall be equipped with one or more backup lamps either
separately or in combination with another lamp. Any vehicle may be
equipped with backup lamps.
(b) Backup lamps shall be so directed as to project a white light
illuminating the highway to the rear of the vehicle for a distance
not to exceed 75 feet. A backup lamp may project incidental red,
amber, or white light through reflectors or lenses that are adjacent
or close to, or a part of, the lamp assembly.
(c) Backup lamps shall not be lighted except when the vehicle is
about to be or is backing or except in conjunction with a lighting
system which activates the lights for a temporary period after the
ignition system is turned off.
(d) Any motor vehicle may be equipped with a lamp emitting white
light on each side near or on the rear of the vehicle which is
designed to provide supplemental illumination in an area to the side
and rear not lighted by the backup lamps. These lamps shall be
lighted only with the backup lamps.

24607. Every vehicle subject to registration under this code shall
at all times be equipped with red reflectors mounted on the rear as
follows:
(a) Every vehicle shall be equipped with at least one reflector so
maintained as to be plainly visible at night from all distances
within 350 to 100 feet from the vehicle when directly in front of the
lawful upper headlamp beams.
(b) Every vehicle, other than a motorcycle, manufactured and first
registered on or after January 1, 1965, shall be equipped with at
least two reflectors meeting the visibility requirements of
subdivision (a), except that trailers and semitrailers manufactured
after July 23, 1973, which are less than 30 inches wide, may be
equipped with one reflector which shall be mounted at or near the
vertical centerline of the trailer. If the vehicle is equipped with
two reflectors, they shall be mounted as specified in subdivision
(d).
(c) Every motortruck having an unladen weight of more than 5,000
pounds, every trailer coach, every camp trailer, every vehicle, or
vehicle at the end of a combination of vehicles, subject to
subdivision (a) of Section 22406, and every vehicle 80 or more inches
in width manufactured on or after January 1, 1969, shall be equipped
with at least two reflectors maintained so as to be plainly visible
at night from all distances within 600 feet to 100 feet from the
vehicle when directly in front of lawful upper headlamp beams.
(d) When more than one reflector is required, at least one shall
be mounted at the left side and one at the right side, respectively,
at the same level. Required reflectors shall be mounted not lower
than 15 inches nor higher than 60 inches, except that a tow truck, in
addition to being equipped with the required reflectors, may also be
equipped with two reflectors which may be mounted not lower than 15
inches nor higher than the maximum allowable vehicle height and as
far forward as the rearmost portion of the driver's seat in the
rearmost position. Additional reflectors of a type meeting
requirements established by the department may be mounted at any
height.
(e) Reflectors on truck tractors may be mounted on the rear of the
cab. Any reflector installed on a vehicle as part of its original
equipment prior to January 1, 1941, need not meet the requirements of
the department provided it meets the visibility requirements of
subdivision (a).
(f) Area reflectorizing material may be used in lieu of the
reflectors required or permitted in subdivisions (a), (b), (c), (d),
and (e), provided each installation is of sufficient size to meet the
photometric requirement for those reflectors.

24608. (a) Motortrucks, trailers, semitrailers, and buses 80 or
more inches in width manufactured on or after January 1, 1968, shall
be equipped with an amber reflector on each side at the front and a
red reflector on each side at the rear. Any vehicle may be so
equipped.
(b) Motortrucks, trailers, semitrailers, housecars, and buses 80
or more inches in width and 30 or more feet in length manufactured on
or after January 1, 1968, shall be equipped with an amber reflector
mounted on each side at the approximate midpoint of the vehicle. Any
such vehicle manufactured prior to January 1, 1968, may be so
equipped.
(c) Required reflectors on the sides of vehicles shall be mounted
not lower than 15 inches nor higher than 60 inches. Additional
reflectors of a type meeting requirements established by the
department may be mounted at any height.
(d) Reflectors required or permitted in subdivisions (a) and (b)
shall be so maintained as to be plainly visible at night from all
distances within 600 feet to 100 feet from the vehicle when directly
in front of lawful upper headlamp beams.
(e) Area reflectorizing material may be used in lieu of the
reflectors required or permitted in subdivisions (a) and (b),
provided each installation is of sufficient size to meet the
photometric requirement for such reflectors.

24609. Any vehicle may be equipped with white or amber reflectors
upon the front of the vehicle, but they shall be mounted not lower
than 15 inches nor higher than 60 inches.

24610. A reflector placed on vehicles under Section 24609 which is
of the button or other multiple-unit type shall contain not less than
seven units with a total of not less than three square inches of
reflecting surface. The red reflectors required may be separate
units or a part of the red taillamps, but in either event the
reflector and taillamps shall comply with all of the requirements of
Sections 24600, 24602, and 24609, and any reflector constituting an
integral part of a taillamp shall comply with all photometric
requirements applicable to a separate reflector.

24611. Trailers that are equipped with red and white reflective
sheeting or reflectors on both the sides and rear and displayed in
accordance with federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard regulations (49
C.F.R. 571.108) for trailers with a width of 80 inches or more and
having a gross vehicle weight rating of over 10,000 pounds need not
be equipped with the reflectors required by Section 24607 or 24608.


24615. It is unlawful to operate upon a public highway any vehicle
or combination of vehicles, which is designed to be and is operated
at a speed of 25 miles per hour or less, unless the rearmost vehicle
displays a "slow-moving vehicle emblem," except upon vehicles used by
a utility, whether publicly or privately owned, for the
construction, maintenance, or repair of its own facilities or upon
vehicles used by highway authorities or bridge or highway districts
in highway maintenance, inspection, survey, or construction work,
while such vehicle is engaged in work at the jobsite upon a highway.
Any other vehicle or combination of vehicles, when operated at a
speed of 25 miles per hour or less, may display such emblem. The
emblem shall be mounted on the rear of the vehicle, base down, and at
a height of not less than three nor more than five feet from ground
to base. Such emblem shall consist of a truncated equilateral
triangle having a minimum height of 14 inches with a red reflective
border not less than 13/4 inches in width and a fluorescent orange
center.
This emblem shall not be displayed except as permitted or required
by this section.



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'98 XLT SC, 4.2V6, 4spd Auto, BugflectorII, 50th Aniversery Flooor Mats, K&N Filter, Hard Tonneau Cover, Billet Grill and Insert, Sony CDX-6850 Head Unit, Soundstream Rubicon 405 Amp, JBL GTO 5x7's All 4 Doors, Qlogic 8" sub-enclosure with Kicker Punch XLC Woofer,SuperBrite Bulb Replacements...and More Mods to Come

http://206.170.51.68/truck

 

Forgeur that was a long post must have taken you a while to type and read from what ever you where getting the info from. Well a couple of weeks ago I saw a chevy S10 with those clear lens on it to bad there wasn't a cop around when you need one when you don't need one there alll over the place.

 

Actually, I cut and pasted the text, but it did take a few minutes to actually get the correct information. Fortunatly the web site has things broken down in to sections that make it pretty easy. What I got from reading it was clear front turn signals are ok but the clear tail lights may be a problem and not one I want to try.


Under the where is a cop when you need one heading, I have actually seen a cop when I thought one should be around. Sitting in a turn lane with no u-turns, the person in front of me flipped a u-turn. Sitting across the street...Undercover police car. Needless to say, I had a good chuckle about that.

Randy

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'98 XLT SC, 4.2V6, 4spd Auto, BugflectorII, 50th Aniversery Flooor Mats, K&N Filter, Hard Tonneau Cover, Billet Grill and Insert, Sony CDX-6850 Head Unit, Soundstream Rubicon 405 Amp, JBL GTO 5x7's All 4 Doors, Qlogic 8" sub-enclosure with Kicker Punch XLC Woofer,SuperBrite Bulb Replacements...and More Mods to Come

http://206.170.51.68/truck

 

Hey i think thats what i was trying to say thank you.....Dave

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1998 F-150 sc/flareside, 4.6,auto,3.55s,airaid system w/k&n,flowmater w/duals out the back side 45*, superchip, blk nerf bars, bed liner and mat, bug shield and window rain guards, cls III reciever, tinted windows, cd changer,Atlas polished rims w/265-75-16 pirelli at/scorpions,oxford white.

 

DAVENSA,

After reading your posts, it became apparent to me people didn't really believe that the clear lenses may be illegal. I am not a cop or a lawyer or anything of those fun things but I am crazy about my truck and don't wan't to any flashing lights behind me because of something I could have avoided had I done 30 minutes of research.

Randy


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'98 XLT SC, 4.2V6, 4spd Auto, BugflectorII, 50th Aniversery Flooor Mats, K&N Filter, Hard Tonneau Cover, Billet Grill and Insert, Sony CDX-6850 Head Unit, Soundstream Rubicon 405 Amp, JBL GTO 5x7's All 4 Doors, Qlogic 8" sub-enclosure with Kicker Punch XLC Woofer,SuperBrite Bulb Replacements...and More Mods to Come

http://206.170.51.68/truck

 

Well here in SC there isn't even a state inspection.
People get away with anything here.


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99 XLT 5.4l reg cab
4 wheel disc/ABS
5 star larait style wheels
Toreador red 2tone
3.55 gears
255/70/16 OWL
Delta toolbox
Eclipse 5340 cd player
Memphis ARCS50 component speakers (excellent sound)
Sherwood amp
subwoofer coming soon
More mods as funds become avalible.