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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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I've got two 10" Alpine Type R (SWR-1042D). Both have got a 1500 watt peak power. I've also got two 6x8" Alpine Type R front speakers with a 200 watt peak a piece. I want the maximum sound out of the subs and the speakers. I need to know if i need to go with one 3000watt, 4000watt, or whatever size amp, or should i get two amps with some high wattage?

Two people have told me that i should just a 3000 watt 2 channel amp which would give 1500 watts to each sub, but what about the speakers?? or should i get a 4 channel and would that alow me to get some watts to the speakers or can i even hook up the sub to the front speakers??

AND one more question. Has anyone heard of a LANZAR MXA282 4000 watt 2 channel High Power MOSFET AMP?? I found one cheap and want to know if i would be wasting my money with an amp i've never heard of? I could use all the ADVICE i can get. THANKS
 
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 08:08 PM
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A good rule of thumb to go by when matching amps to subs/speakers is to match their RMS rating and not their max/peak rating. There is nothing wrong with having more power in your amp as long as you set it properly. I don't know the Type R's specs off the top of my head, but for the subs take into consideration what your final impedance is gonna be and make sure the amp has the output (and stable) at that load.

I would also get seperate amps.

I would also stay away form Lanzar.
 
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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well my speakers have 40 watts RMS and Subs have 500 watts RMS. So with this info could someone suggest a amp or two amps, 2 channel or multiple channel? and anybody know anything about equlizers?
 
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 11:30 PM
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What is your budget for both amps? Also, what impedance are your subs? Dual 4, dual 2, SVC 4 ohm, etc? Give us that info and we can help better.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 02:19 AM
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No real budget, just the best for my money..of course the cheaper the better. If its cheap i don't want people to tell...The amp/amps just need to make my music sound close to or as close to the best i can get perverably im on the cheaper side.
Here's the specs on my subs and speakers. I know theres to much info.
SUBS
FEATURES
Woofer
• Bumped Backplate
• Compound Radius Curve Pole Geometry
• Custom Cast Aluminum Frame with Integrated Heat Transfer Plate
• Designed and Engineered in the USA
• Dual Progressive Oversized Nomex ® Spiders
• Dual Stacked Magnets
• Dual Voice Coil Design
• Extra Length Extended Pole
• Flared Pole Vent
• High Strength Brass Voice Coil Bobbin
• Integrated Tinsel Lead Design
• Kevlar Reinforced Pulp Cone
• Magnetically Optimized Motor Structure (Pat. Pend.)
• Oversized Parabolic Dustcap
SPECIFICATIONS
Power Handling
• Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 1500W
• Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 500W
General
• Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp
• Spider Material : Nomex
• Frequency Response : 24Hz - 500Hz

SPEAKERS
FEATURES
Tweeter
• Feather Light Silk Dome Tweeter
• Flush & Surface (W/swivel) Mounting Kits
• Neodymium Magnet
General
• External 12dBHP/6dBLP Crossover with Tweeter Protection and Level Adjustment
SPECIFICATIONS
Power Handling
• Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 200W
• Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 40W
General
• Frequency Response : 35Hz - 30kHz
• Impedance (Nominal) : 4 ohm
• Mounting Depth (in) : 2-3/8"
• Mounting Depth (mm) : 60.3mm
• Mounting Diameter (in) : 5" x 7-1/8"
• Mounting Diameter (mm) : 127mm x 180mm
• Sensitivity : 87 dB/W/m
 
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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since I know someone will point out that the sub resistance isn't stated the SWR-1042D is a dual 4ohm sub.
 
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Old Jun 26, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Patriottruck
AND one more question. Has anyone heard of a LANZAR MXA282 4000 watt 2 channel High Power MOSFET AMP?? I found one cheap and want to know if i would be wasting my money with an amp i've never heard of? I could use all the ADVICE i can get. THANKS
LANZAR=CHEAP=WASTING MONEY
well said Patriottruck

You have decent equipment, the question is how much money and how much room do you have for an amp/amps? You can simply get into a mid to large size 4channel amp run 2 channels to the front and bridge the other 2 for the subs. Dual4 ohm coils will let you do that setup with most conventional 4 channel amps. Since you have all alpine equip now you can stay with it for the amp they do make quality amps. If you need to save space the new alpine ice amps might work out well for you, if they fit your budget.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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You can simply get into a mid to large size 4channel amp run 2 channels to the front and bridge the other 2 for the subs. Dual4 ohm coils will let you do that setup with most conventional 4 channel amps. Since you have all alpine equip now you can stay with it for the amp they do make quality amps. If you need to save space the new alpine ice amps might work out well for you, if they fit your budget.[/QUOT

My budget is around 400 dollars more or less. I looked at this amp and here's the stats:
Alpine MRV-F545
125W x 4 car amplifier
75 watts RMS x 4 at 4 ohms
500 watts RMS x 1 (When channels 3/4 are briged) + 125 watts RMS x 1 (When channels 1/2 are bridged)
Detachable front cover
2-, 3-, or 4-channel output
Tri-Way capable

Does this mean if i bridge two channels to my subs i will get 500 rms to each sub or is it just 250 rms to each sub. and if i run the each other channel to a speaker(1 channel to seaker1 and other channel to speaker2) that i would get 125 rms per speaker or is that when the 2 channels bridged to the speakers? Sorry, as you can see i don't know much about this stuff. I just want to get as close as i can to 500 watts rms for each sub and 200 watts to each front speaker. I just want to know what amp/amps (alpine or not) would give me what i want or as close as i can get to what i want. Sorry i don't know anything bout this.
I found this amp for $350

By the way nothinbutaford, way to go on the aftermarket interior..Looks Great
 

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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You need to find yourself a 1000-watt, MONOBLOCK amp RMS. Get something decent. I would get something that will be stable @ 1ohm. This is how I run my 2 10" subs with dual 4 ohm coils. Dont get a JL, because those only go down to 1.5ohm. ill be happy to help you find some if you need help.
 

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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:30 PM
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I looked at that amp on Alpine's site and that is some of the weirdest ratings I have ever seen. Best I can make out, it is a 125 x 4 amp that will do:

125 x 2 and 500 x 1. This would put 125 to your front speakers and 500 to the subs. It would be 250 watts to each sub.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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ore they the new type-rs or the old?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Robamus
You need to find yourself a 1000-watt, MONOBLOCK amp RMS. Get something decent. I would get something that will be stable @ 1ohm. This is how I run my 2 10" subs with dual 4 ohm coils. Dont get a JL, because those only go down to 1.5ohm. ill be happy to help you find some if you need help.
With a monoblock amp how much would i get to each sub and each speaker?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dconder
I looked at that amp on Alpine's site and that is some of the weirdest ratings I have ever seen. Best I can make out, it is a 125 x 4 amp that will do:

125 x 2 and 500 x 1. This would put 125 to your front speakers and 500 to the subs. It would be 250 watts to each sub.
That sounds pretty good but do ya reccomend anything better, with more rms power to each speaker/sub. another brand. I also want an amp with bass boost and a high signal to noise rating
 
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Patriottruck
That sounds pretty good but do ya reccomend anything better, with more rms power to each speaker/sub. another brand. I also want an amp with bass boost and a high signal to noise rating

125 watts is going to be plenty for the 6 x 8 speakers. For $400, you are not going to find much in the way of quality over that Alpine. You might look at a Memphis Belle. It is a 5 channel amp that would put 1,000 watts to the subs, 500 each, and 75 x 4 which could be bridged for 230 x 2 but, that might be a bit much for the 6 x 8. It would also run quite a bit more than $400. Are your Type R 6 x 8 speakers components or coaxials?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2006 | 05:37 PM
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they are components
62.5 rms would be plenty for each speaker but i wouldn't i have to worry about blowing my speakers with that much power when they are ony rated at 40 rms? is it impossible to get more rms watts to my subs without going so extreme with my front speakers?
 

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