Head unit: Alpine CDA-7995
MB Quart RCE216 Reference series 6.5" 60-130 watts all 4 speakers --- retail like $450++ a pair but i found for 152$ ^^ so im guessing they sound great while handling some major power, loud jus' what im lookin' for baby, gotta swing by tweeter's sound rooms to play and test them out
Now for a 4 channel amp I was thinking an Alpine MRV-540 4/3/2 which it says on alpine.com:: gives no rating for 14.4V @ 2 ohm; but 100x4 bridged 4 ohm, which one would think would be more for the 2 ohm... :/ not too familiar with speaker loads, moreso familiar with subwoofer loads, so any help on how i would set it up for maximum power
Now 2 JL Audio 12W3V2's powered by an Alpine MRD-M501 which is rated 550W x 1 (2 ohm @ 14.4V) which i can get if both subs are 4 ohm resistance -- "dual 4 ohm subs wired in parallel to form a 2 ohm bridged mono load".... should i just go with a JL 500/1 ?? slightly more expensive but easier because rated 500 watts for any ohm load 1-4 or whatnot mentioned, or maybe an MTX thunder 1501D ? says 1500 watts at 2 ohms and 750 at 4, and supposedly they are accurately labeled and i can find for about 330$ same as the alpine amp for half that rating, i dont know...

none of this is set in stone, flexible, so any changes or suggestions you might have would be greatly appreciated, even some explaining on how i should wire things would help very much thanks, -mat-

 

MB are great comps, have you gone out and listened to them yet? I am undecided on them. Might just be the installs that i've heard. MB's don't usually sound real good till your looking at the $1,000 a pair ones, not even sure of the series or numbers.

100x4 bridged @ 4 ohm is weired. I'm thinking you either mis read it or that is in mono and not stereo. Doesn't make since.

The best amps you have mentioned are the JL's, and going all the way around with them would be my suggestion if you got the money. I tend to shy away from the MTX gear but at least the one you have mentioned is a class D amp which is great for bass.

Did you find a really great deal on the W3's ? I would highly suggest looking into JL W6, JL W7, JL comps, Resonance Engineering, Hifonics, Avionixx and CDT. Run a search on the web for this gear. Your not gonna find much of it at Tweeter. The cheapest place to get his gear is on-line. Don't always get the warranty's, but for the price you can't beat it.

 

oh i definately agree, i get all my stuff online, i just mentioned tweeter because i just go there and check out stuff, play in their sound rooms and such, i found the w3v2's for 150 a piece, retail at 350$ so not bad, i found the mb quarts for 153$ a pair, which kicks *** because they retail at like 450$, i can get the JL 500/1 for about 350$ most prices ive seen, still more than i want to spend but if i have to thats fine, and i checked alpines website about the MRV-540 and it reads:: •14.4V RMS Continuous Power 2ohm; Stereo (0.3% THD) 100x4 Bridged 4ohm; (0.3% THD) 200x2
• 12V RMS Continuous Power 4ohm; Stereo (0.08% THD) 50Wx4 2ohm; Stereo (0.3% THD) 70x4 Bridged 4ohm; (0.3% THD) 140x2
http://iweb.alpine-usa.com/pls/admn/...=120&p_main=10
and i found that for 287 retail 600$
so im just wondering if i really need a JL 500/1 and im wondering whats the deal with cheap amps with high ratings? i mean you get a nice jl 500/1 for a high price and other amps like rockford fos. 600/1 for much cheaper just by example...whats the deal? why so much cheaper? does it run not at 600 or something? dunno, i think the mb quart speakers sound good... if you know better just gimme a couple options and ill check them out...

 

Yeah, I hear ya on going down and playing with the stuff at the stores. They just don't have much to play with, at least not around here.

The Alpine amp your looking at is a 4x50 RMS amp. The JL is a much cleaner more powerful amp than the Alpine your looking at. Stay away from the cheap high power stuff!

Take a look at

Hifonics

CDT

RE
Move your cursor around under the sub and you will see the menu.

The W6's are a huge upgrade from the W3's but either are some nice subs. All these goodies got connections for good prices online.

I don't see any specs on the MB quarts your looking at on there site. Where are they online? Are these coax?

The Hifonics Class D are great clean Bass amps for the money. I picked up a 1500 D for $250 Brand new. The Zeus are nice amps for the mids and tweets.

 

i think im gonna go with JL for both amps... the 300/4 75x4 one and a 500/1... can get the 500/1 for 360 and the 300/4 for 370... more than i wanted to spend on amps but eh, i guess its worth it, should last me awhile, or at least until i want something more...

i just...its more than i want to spend for a system, im a senior in high school and i work a ton, make 210-300 for an average week, so i mean i CAN afford this stuff but im not sure that i want to, i just want something that sounds good thats LOUD and POUNDS...and i know ill get what i want with these but im wondering if i can back it off anywhere to save a buck or two....

Head Unit: Alpine CDA-7995 not where im getting but for pictures $299
Speakers: MB Quart RCE216 6.5" 2-way component system pair = $153 x 2 = $303 + s/h
4 Ch. Amp: JL Audio 300/4 75 x 4 rms = 370$ + s/h
Mono Amp: JL Audio 500/1 = $360 + s/h
Subs: JL Audio 12w3v2 = 140 x 2 = $280 + s/h

= Grand Total of $1612 + s/h for everything.... :/ eh
kinda too much too much, i mean i can keep all this stuff for a long time... but ah i dunno, suggestions!!!? i only need something thats loud, sounds good, and hits hard... im not lookin for competition winning level and quality... :/ any help would be greatly appreciated.... i dont think i need this much

 

OK, buy used.

Just went over to caraudioforum and found Hifonics BX1500 D which is very simillar to the 500/1 for $225

If you really like the MB coax's, then go with them. You could get away with 1 pair of the HD-62's for $250. Would be very clean and probably louder than you need with 100+ watts a side.

I've seen the ZX 6000 for $200. It is 2 x 150 Watts @ 4 Ohms
2 x 300 Watts @ 2 Ohms

HU $300. Keep an eye on ebay for HU's. Seen some slide through but i'm waiting on 7998

So there your at $1000 plus still need subs. 1 RE 12 would pound the crap out of the any amount of W3 for $250

If you go with 2 of the W3's, get the 4 ohm DVC's. With 2 subs you will be able to get them down to 1 ohm load which will get the most bang for your buck out of the amps. If you run one, get the 2 ohm DVC

Check these out

 

Steve... you just said to stay away from cheap, high-power stuff, but earlier you recommended Avionixx. What are your thoughts on Avionixx. Do you have any direct experience with them? I had thought about trying them out. They get a lot of recommendations on the audio forums, and the price is right... maybe a little TOO right...

 

I have no experiance with them directly, just mentioned them since alot of guy's seem to be running them and he is looking to lighten the load on his wallet. Maybee Ampresearch will see this, he runs a crap load of em.

 

hey steve if you wouldnt mind, check out my thread on caraudioforum ::: My Proposal

check out their suggestions and my choices as it developed... specially my second to last post, wondering about the RE 12" SE sub x 2

and "found each for 210$ Hifonics Zeus ZX6400 85 x 4 ch. or Phoenix Gold Tantrum 600.4 75 x 4, in white or black both brand new in box...which would you suggest and why?"

and whats with that idea the guy gave me about ditching rear speakers and running everything with a 4 channel amp???? how does that work, or does it lol 2 channels not enough to power sub(s)

 

also i hear people talking about magnum subs.... what is?? "Say.........a 15" magnum (3 cubes @ 32 hz) or something...
" and i hear a lot of people mention them :/

 

I totaly agree with the NO comps in the back and am a fan of nothing back there at all. I'd rather have 170 a side on the front than to split it up between 4 speakers.

RE's are very loud and will go very low. You can also get them in many more ohm configs. IF you really want to hear them before getting them, check out a sound comp in your area. There should be plenty RE's there to check out.

With all that being said, i'd still look into the ZX 6000 for the highs and the BX 1500D for the subs. A 1500 watt Brutus running a pair of 12" RE's will blow you out of the truck. I could easily see it being too loud in the right box! I stand behind Hifonics because they are incredible power for the money, period.

Don't waste your time with running everything off one amp. That will sound like crap. It does work however.

 

which RE subs should i get? would the 2 SE's be sufficient?

what do you think about CDT CL-61A 6.5" components look he seems to like them in review:: CDT CL-61A

i found for only 149$ brand new pair on thezeb.com cause they were rejected due to a slightly different red color trim on the basket -- here free shipping not to mention ^_^

and check out what this guy has to say reviewing the hifonics bx1500D review he claims the only accurate rating the amp says is the 1500 @ 1 ohm... he says the rest its very overrated, only get 750@ 2 ohms and 375 on 4 ohms (estimated) full of crap? he seems knowledgeble ive talked to him before... and what ohm config should i buy for the pair of RE's in order to run them for 1 ohm operation?? and how would i do this exactly :/

goin to work ill be back at like 8 (Eastern)

 

stereo integrity makes the magnums... found that out, any good though? expensive -_- how are the prices on RE subs?

 

I'd say either 2 SE's or 1 XXX. The XXX is gonna be a much higher end driver that will go lower and louder. The SE's would probably be more than enough though. It would depend what type of room we got to work with here as well. That would be the most important factor in deciding which way to go. I have a buddy that runs 2 XXX 12's in a civic. That thing pounds so hard I am waiting for it to implode.

I have had no experiance with SI magnums

He is probably right on the Brutus. All I know is mine is at 1.3 ohm and it is very loud.

I don't think you could go wrong with any of the CDT stuff, but do realize they are the bottom line of there entire line. I'd spend the extra hundred bucks and get the HD-62. There is a thread on the speaker forum about the deal.

You should keep your eyes peeled for used RE's. They are not going to be cheap new but would highly recomend them over the W6 we started off with.

1 ohm can be achieved with 2 4ohm DVC or 1 2ohm DVC. 2 1/2ohm SVC or 2 2ohm SVC

 

uhh yeah it would help if i told you that its not in a truck:/ maybe that would change your mind about the no rear speakers and such thats why i was like confused as to why, its in a 93' subaru legacy, so i got room to work with.. lol