i just came across this Rockford Fosgate Power 1001BD for $350.00 do u think thats a good deal or what?>>?? im looking to run 2 kicker comps, or maybe some dayton 10", still looking for those...... its in a reg cab so the subs gotta fit in the wedge box... do u think i should go one or two subs?

 

That is not a bad deal for that amp.

 

Not to sway you away from RF, but from what I understand, they are not what they used to be. I have still been hearing good things about there Power series though. While that may be a good price for the amp, it seems like alot of money for the power.

I would suggest looking into Hifonics 1000d or 1500d. They can be had new for $250-$350 from any of the online stores. Don't have mine installed yet, but over on the car audio forums, they seem to give Brutus series pretty high marks. Come on Brown truck (UPS)!

Don't have a clue about what subs fit the box your looking at. I have to imagine it is at least 5" mounting depth? Staying in the 10" size, i'd suggest going with 2, you will have plenty of airspace. Look at Diamond Audio, Audiobahn, Resonant Engineering. Kind of depends if your looking to get loud, or get clean tight bass. If I was going with one speaker, it would be 12" or larger.

Do you do any hunting up there in Canada?

 

Sticker,

The rumors you hear about RF are incorrect. I have explained time and time again why these rumors have gotten started and don't feel like going through it all over again. Do some homework and you will find out why. Anyway, the Brutus is also a nice strong amp and good for the money.

Are there better amps out there than RF? Yes. Are there better amps out there for less? doubtful. Are there amps out there that are equivilant and cost less? Yes, a few.

 

hunt? naw, but whatev many do i suppose, only about a trillion moose and deer to kill..... but anyways i went out today and bought the Punch mono 301M. Hopefully that will be suffcient for the ultimate 12" i got.

 

That amp will be more than enough. Total RMS power of that particular amp will typically range anywhere from 340-450RMS. Look at the birth sheet on it and it will give you accurate numbers of it's capability.

 

Sorry cgorris, didn't mean to step on your toes here. I am not basing my assumtions of RF on rumors but on stats and my basic knowledge of car stereos. The only rumors I have heard are in favor of RF.

My very first system was all punch back in 1986. At the time I thought it was the chit, till I grew into the sport and started going to comps. That opened my eyes to a whole new world and I then realized that there was better out there for alot less money. Many of the top contenders were equipment the average guy never even hears about because they are not mass producing the stuff to fill up every Wal-Mart and Circuit City in the country.

Bottom line is the punch amps are only 2 ohm stable, not real clean with thd .08% @ 4 ohm, has high level inputs, 900 Watts Peak/Max (not a good sign when you see this), and is readily sold for next to nothing at our local swap meet. To the average ears, it might not meen a thing. But like anything, once the newnes of the noise wears off, you look for more (I do anyways)

ahawkers, your setup sounds alot like my first system. I am sure you will be satisfied with the sounds, Have Fun!

 

Steve,

You can hear .08% THD? WOW, yours ears must be absolutely phenominal. As far as being only 2 ohm stable, well that means nothing. I personally would rather have all my power delivered at 2 ohm. There are amps out there that deliver all their power into 1/4 ohm load but it does not make them superior to amps that are only 1 ohm stable or 2 ohm stable, it merely makes them different. But if you like low impedance stability you would probably like to know that the new line of RF for 04 the power amps will be 1 ohm stable.


This is why people believe RF to be inferior equipment. But I will let you know. HiFonics is in the same boat. They also are available at any swap meet or flea market.

In short, people are slamming product merely because of rumor or because of where they can buy it. Not for it's actual performance. Not that I am defending RF as much as I am pointing out that if you don't have facts then you should not restate rumor.

If it makes you feel better I would have jumped on you had you said the same thing about HiFonics.

You said you compete. Are you going to be at SBN? Also what org do you compete in?

 

I'm not looking to get into it with you, just stating my opinion. The way the thread was going, you were the only guy out there giving opinions and figured I'd give my input. No where in my post did I say anything about competing, just that going to comps (observer that drops his $20 into the hat to support the games) was an eye opener. Out here on the west coast, competing in comps just makes you a target to get ripped off.

The .08 @ 4ohms aint nothing to what I can only imagine the THD is at 2ohms which yes I can hear. And if you can't, you been turning it up too loud Not that Hifonics is better in any aspect other than delivering more true power for less money and being a very desirable amp in the price range he was looking to keep it under!

So your saying amps like Mark Anthony, Macintosh, old Orion and the like are not far superior to amps like RF, Hifonics and Sony which was his other option? I'd beg to differ!

I was born at night, but not last night! Do you sell RF? There must be an underlying reason for being so touchy on the subject.

For $250 I picked up a brand new 1500D that will put out 1,000 RMS at 2ohm and 1,500 RMS. Hence my saying that he could get more power for the buck! It would have blown his Ultimate 12 right through the seat! But again just my opinion.

 

No I don't sell RF. Also, I am not attacking you and I am sorry that you feel I am. I am merely here to state facts rather than opinion. The facts are that the human ear cannot distinguish THD below about 2% and that is reserved only for people with exceptional hearing. The average person can't hear THD of 3-5% even with test tones. It is easier to hear THD when playing test tones of course. Who really listens to test tones anyway, other than when they are setting gains?

My point is merely that people speak badly of many equipment makers out there based mainly upon what they hear through the grapevine or what a spec sheet says.

I do agree that the Marc's, Zapco's, Esoteric's, McIntosh's and many other amps out there are better than the RF. However, the RF is far from the bottom of the stack and rank closer to the top than most.

Just for your future knowledge the RF amps deliver full rated power into 2 ohms at .1% THD. That still is far less than even 1 %. Perhaps you just haven't had the opporunity to hear the amps setup properly.

Anyway, it has been good speaking with you. I always love a good debate.

 

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PIMPN???

 

I've been running a punch 500 to two JL W-3's for about four years. (The set up has been in three diff trucks) Still sounds as good as the first day.

 

yes my man that is correct PIMPN


If anyone is interested I am selling a 2003 Brand new in box Rockford bd 1500. I have all the paper work that it came with including reciept. with that they warrenty there stuff for 3 years. Im only looking to get $350 for it. E-mail me for pics and iwth questions. Thanks