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Old Dec 12, 2012 | 07:37 PM
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Sucked through the vortex, looking for advice

First I want to say hello to all, I'm new to chipped engines. I'm an "old school" guy that has until now only built 70's and 80's engines for lifted mud slingers.
So, I picked up a '04 FX-4 a few months ago, got an edge chip, and put on a cold air injection kit.
I'll be getting a dual Flowmaster exhaust in January. Right now it's on stock tires, I run 92 octane.
I've been playing around with #2 and #3 settings, but am not really happy with either one.
I got the chip from a wrecked truck and I believe it's about 5 years old.
I did update the bios last month when I installed it.
I'm near Seattle, so that's sea level and a cool ambient temp.
Can anyone recommend a custom setting that wont destroy the tranny but deliver a good blend of performance and increased MPG's?
I tried a few of the tunes posted and am getting better MPG's but haven't noticed a ground shaking performance increase.
Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 12:29 AM
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Which exact Edge programmer do you have?
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 08:58 AM
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Which exact Edge programmer do you have?
It's an Evolution.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by divemaster5734
It's an Evolution.
www.gopowerhungry.com

They're the only ones that write custom tunes for edge evolutions
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 12:01 PM
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To the OP - take that CAI off your truck and restore the stock intake. The 04 model year trucks are prone to run lean with CAIs and you need custom tunes, not the canned ones that are on the Evolution to compensate.

If you leave the CAI in place, follow 88racing's advice and get custom tunes.

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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by divemaster5734
First I want to say hello to all, I'm new to chipped engines. I'm an "old school" guy that has until now only built 70's and 80's engines for lifted mud slingers.
So, I picked up a '04 FX-4 a few months ago, got an edge chip, and put on a cold air injection kit.
I'll be getting a dual Flowmaster exhaust in January. Right now it's on stock tires, I run 92 octane.
I've been playing around with #2 and #3 settings, but am not really happy with either one.
I got the chip from a wrecked truck and I believe it's about 5 years old.
I did update the bios last month when I installed it.
I'm near Seattle, so that's sea level and a cool ambient temp.
Can anyone recommend a custom setting that wont destroy the tranny but deliver a good blend of performance and increased MPG's?
I tried a few of the tunes posted and am getting better MPG's but haven't noticed a ground shaking performance increase.
Thanks in advance.
With regards to “Chips” and “Tuners”, years ago it was the best that most could do to enhance the ignition timing, fuel curve, transmission shift points, etc. It was (and still is) very important that a person verifies that the “Tuner” is ASE certified in both ECM and Transmission programming and IMHO be have current certification by the OEM whose vehicle you want to modify. There are plenty of persons who advertise their programs to be the best and even offer custom tunes, but in all reality, very few actually have credentials in these areas- but that’s not to say that some of these “geniuses” haven’t really caused damage to a few vehicles- just jump over to flatratetech.com and read just some of the comments from the MSE techs!. Perhaps what is equally important is the parameters that can be adjusted are set by the OEM vehicle software…so there is really no “magic” in what they are doing anyway.

IMHO, if you live near any major city there are excellent tuning specialists with dynos who for the same price (if not less) will tune your vehicle taking into consideration your specific needs including environmental conditions, for your specific vehicle. IMHO, the best bang for the buck!

Since you are comfortable and understand how to tune a vehicle, you can also do this yourself. There are several software programs available, that “Speak Common English” that will allow you to tune your vehicles ECM. One company is HP Tuners, they have a website….they offer two core programs, one for those who are doing dyno tuning and one for the home-garage mechanic (which is priced at about the same as most of the “canned tunes on the market) …this version limits the span of adjustments as a safeguard against doing something outside of the oem scope……basically, keeps you from doing something “too stupid by accident” (grin). They also have adapters through affiliates for burning chips for pre-obd vehicles- but you must have an understanding of how/why you are adjusting fuel mixture and ignition timing.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by beechkid
With regards to “Chips” and “Tuners”, years ago it was the best that most could do to enhance the ignition timing, fuel curve, transmission shift points, etc. It was (and still is) very important that a person verifies that the “Tuner” is ASE certified in both ECM and Transmission programming and IMHO be have current certification by the OEM whose vehicle you want to modify. There are plenty of persons who advertise their programs to be the best and even offer custom tunes, but in all reality, very few actually have credentials in these areas- but that’s not to say that some of these “geniuses” haven’t really caused damage to a few vehicles- just jump over to flatratetech.com and read just some of the comments from the MSE techs!. Perhaps what is equally important is the parameters that can be adjusted are set by the OEM vehicle software…so there is really no “magic” in what they are doing anyway.

IMHO, if you live near any major city there are excellent tuning specialists with dynos who for the same price (if not less) will tune your vehicle taking into consideration your specific needs including environmental conditions, for your specific vehicle. IMHO, the best bang for the buck!

Since you are comfortable and understand how to tune a vehicle, you can also do this yourself. There are several software programs available, that “Speak Common English” that will allow you to tune your vehicles ECM. One company is HP Tuners, they have a website….they offer two core programs, one for those who are doing dyno tuning and one for the home-garage mechanic (which is priced at about the same as most of the “canned tunes on the market) …this version limits the span of adjustments as a safeguard against doing something outside of the oem scope……basically, keeps you from doing something “too stupid by accident” (grin). They also have adapters through affiliates for burning chips for pre-obd vehicles- but you must have an understanding of how/why you are adjusting fuel mixture and ignition timing.
Bill@ power hungry performance is ASE certified and the OP does have the edge evolution programmer that only Bill can write tunes for....
 
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Old Dec 15, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Many thanks to 88, jack, and beech, I went to the site and am going through it after this reply.
I used some parameters of the posted tunes, and got 18.9 MPG straight highway.
That's as long as I leave it on CC and keep my foot out of it.
I can see now I'm going to need 3 or 4 different tunes at least.
The CAI did increase performance, but not uniformly through out.
It people like you guys than help make a difference.
Thanks again
 
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