Yes, and Yes.

 

Troyer is a joke. Stay away if you don't want to be ripped off like I was.

 

ouch!

 

Do explain.

 

You won't have any problem with Troyer if you have a near-stock truck, other than a LONG wait for custom tunes.

 

To put it bluntly, he is a punk. I spent 15 grand on mods he did to my truck. In less than 300 miles it destroyed 5 spark plugs. One of them took out cylinder #2. I talked to him about what had happened, and we agreed to send the truck back to him to find out what had happened. After I had waited and waited for a response from him, I called them but he did not respond. I sent multiple emails, and was told he would call me, but he never did. In the meantime, every mechanic I talked to said the something in the tune was the problem. Something in the tune was causing it to run hot. After so many attempts to get him to call me which he never did, I got mad. I mentioned that his tuning was what caused the problems. That was a big no no on my part. He finally called me all pissed of from me having the nerve to think he had done the tune wrong. We had a long conversation, and I thought we had it all worked out. 2 months later, I find out that he had his mechanic pull the truck outside, and let it sit just to spite me.

 

Blah blah blah!! You and your whining. I think it's a shame how you leave out so many details in your little story. For one you have had trouble and whined about this truck for years. All anyone has to do is review your history. You picked this truck up proud as anything and bragging about the power but upset about belt slip. Understandable but not Troyers fault. Even claimed the truck ran great. After driving it the supercharger pucked itself and god only knows what else in to your motor fouling out plugs and possibly doing other damage. After the sc incident which is unfortunate you should have taken the heads off or at least run a borascope inside the cylinders to look for any problems or damages. Hell you didn't even change plugs. You just drove it like that with it running like crap and then changed them only to create a mis due to a fuel injector you didn't plug back in. Then ran lean on cylinder two. And somehow you want to blame Troyer for all of this. Your just pissed cause Procharger ain't backing that blower or the damage so you have decided this is all Mikes fault. Sorry but a tune can't make a single cylinder run lean.

Heres a link for those of you interested https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...belt-slip.html

Mike Troyer is an outstanding tuner. Yes if you are only ordering tunes you will wait longer than many other shops but the results are outstanding and your trucks engine and trans will be tuned to peak performance. I know this from personal experince time and time again. Mike does all of the tunning himself.

 

Hey Screwed up. I have already told you once that the belt slip was an issue that wasn't Mike Troyers fault. I did have the bore scoped, as well as the plugs changed. How do you think I found the 5 plugs burnt all to pieces. The injector was not off of cylinder #2 jackass. Of course I thought everything was fine at first. At that time, I did not know the extent of the damage that had been done. It really pisses me off that you think I am making this up. That jerk you defend charged me 15,000 dollars for what he did to my truck. As I said before dumbass, troyer had the motor built that is in the truck. He is the only person that has touched it. He is the only mechanic I have talked to that says he didn't screw the tune up. The guy is a punk in my opinion, and you are just like him. You don't understand that he would have let my truck sit outside for who knows how long, just because he was mad at me for mentioning that he did something wrong. That statement was backed up by his mechanic. He had me to believe that he was going to pull the motor, but then told the mechanic to pull it outside and let it sit. You ain't got a clue about how I was hurt when finding this out. You damn right I am mad.

 

Thats what I said. Whats your point here? I only mentioned it because according to you this was the only issue at hand when you dyno'd and left with your truck.


Really because your remarks in the post below do not indicate in anyway that you checked inside the cylinders until much latter. You pulled the plugs saw they were burnt off and then replaced them with older plugs. Also according to your post in that thread you didn't have the cylinders checked for another 2 weeks during which time you claimed to have driven the truck and you were trying to figure out what was wrong.

And then you say

What? Well here it says you took it somewhere and had plugs done after you had messed with them and then took it somewhere else for probing?


Now more of your rant.

You see with all the conflicts in your post it's hard to know whats made up and whats not. In addition you are bashing Troyer but you have not posted any info to back up your claims. For example:
1. Where are your test results confirming you didn't have bad fuel or lower octane or a high ethonal content over 10%? (Not that you would put the wrong octane in, but the wrong octane could have been put in the tanks at the gas station.) An unfortunate mistake that could affect any of us with high performance setups.

2. Where is your proof that your fuel pump, filter, injectors, fuel pressure regulator, and fuel lines are operating as they should and not clogged or malfunctioning ? Worse yet there could be a short in a wire to the pump.

3. Where is your proof that you have no vac leak? If a fuel injector could be left unplugged then a hose could be left off? Or heck it could be the manifold gasket in which case you could scream foul to the engine builder.

4. Have you sent your tunes to SCT, or perhaps a renouned tuner to have them anaylized for flaws to prove your comments about Troyers tune? If so where are these results?

5. Have you had the MAF checked to see if it's by some chance begining to fail?

Instead you have just choosen to sit and type crap about Mike and insult his abilites which is probably why he put your truck outside and left it for you to come get it. It's what any shop will do with a deal gone bad. I'm sure he was gonna pull the motor and start investagating what happened. But I'm betting you pissed him off, probably called up there telling him how you & some local mechanics think its the tune when they couldn't even give you a list of things to check like I did...and now he has dropped you like a used contraceptive. Lastly you are right, Mike and I are a lot alike. Perfectionist, strong minded, and strong personalities. We knew right away we could easily be friends or enimies. I chose to be his friend. You never **** off your tuner. Anyway I'm sorry to hear about all that has befallen your truck. It sucks and I would be devastated as well. I'm sorry you have to resort to name calling as well.

 

I'm getting sick and tired of seeing you come into every Troyer thread and crapping all over it. We get the picture - you think he's screwing you over. Now go somewhere else and shut up.

 

I am not getting on anyone's case in this thread whatsoever, but... it's a shame to see so much BASHING going on in what is otherwise a fantastic site! Yes, everyone has the right to vent, bash or spew their opinions as much as he or she wants, but it has to stop at some point. I have to agree with glc, as far as this site is concerned bravo316, your just going to have to let it go. You've stated your displeasure with Troyer, vented about what happened and told everyone on here what occurred (truthfully I hope and I'm not saying you didn't) to make you so angry with them over at T.P., but even you have to admit that it's enough. This thread was not started by the OP for your specific rant, nor was he asking what went so wrong between you and the folks over at Troyer. Hew was asking about what to expect from an SCT tuner and NOT your opinion of Mike Troyer. It does however suck that you've been going through so much hell with your truck, I truly do feel for ya man, no one should have so many problems after spending that kind of money, to that I can only say good luck and I really hope things work out for you....... but your really not helping farodad any, and you really need to focus your anger with Troyer by going to them directly and dealing with them directly. Don't keep going into other's threads and bashing them, your not helping those people or yourself for that matter.

On the subject of Troyers tunes, I ordered a set of custom tunes with an SCT Xcal ll from him 5 years ago (apparently when he wasn't so crazy busy) and received them in 8 weeks. I've never had an issue with them, and they made my truck a completely different beast, for the better. I was never happier, so.....

I come on this site because of the insightful advise given by others, to see the shared experience with other F150 owners, and to possibly help out with some of my experience (though it is rare and not of any help at all)

Anyways, lets see some more help and positive thoughts and little less opinionated hate and bashing

 

I have had enough of this fighting myself. What is done is done, and its time for me to move on from trying to blame someone for what has happened. By my own admission, I have said things that I shouldn't have to fellow members. Hopefully I can get the truck repaired before too long, and the only bashing will be for the local Chevy trucks that I get behind.

 

I hope you get things worked out soon and with as little expense as possible.

 

Yeah me too buddy. Thanks.

 

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