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Old Nov 12, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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Which Matco set is that? FSP100 or BPR65?

Plus, what spark plugs are recommended?
The Matco set I have is BPR65. And the spark plugs that came in my 04 were PZT2FT (not 100% sure on that part #), but i replaced those plugs with plugs that supposedly fixed the breaking problem, which are in the newer F150s. The part # is PZT14F.

Originally Posted by Patman03SprCrw
good information here, what plug did brand/model did you put back in?
Thanks, The new plugs I put in are Motocraft PZT14F. Also, I used a high temp (2100*F) anti-seize on the new plugs, so hopefully they wont break next time.

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Will that set from Matco dig the broken porcelain out?

I have one from Snap-on with a really long tap that works great for getting the ground shield out, but I'm still looking for alternatives other than the lame *** Ford setup to get the porcelain out.
Yeah, the Matco one does. You have to use the other shorter and thicker bolt to get the bigger piece of the porcelain out.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by milkthegoat
The Matco set I have is BPR65. And the spark plugs that came in my 04 were PZT2FT (not 100% sure on that part #), but i replaced those plugs with plugs that supposedly fixed the breaking problem, which are in the newer F150s. The part # is PZT14F.


Thanks, The new plugs I put in are Motocraft PZT14F. Also, I used a high temp (2100*F) anti-seize on the new plugs, so hopefully they wont break next time.


Yeah, the Matco one does. You have to use the other shorter and thicker bolt to get the bigger piece of the porcelain out.
It looks like the Matco tool works like the Lisle tool and pushes the porcelain in a little farther so the shield can be removed. Is this correct?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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[QUOTE=milkthegoat;3450317]The Matco set I have is BPR65. And the spark plugs that came in my 04 were PZT2FT (not 100% sure on that part #), but i replaced those plugs with plugs that supposedly fixed the breaking problem, which are in the newer F150s. The part # is PZT14F.

I recently purchased my 2008 Super Crew 5.4 and was wondering from the above statement, have they fixed this spark plug problem? I have about 1,500 miles on mine at this point and just wanted to know if I need to be concerned about my plugs when the time comes (hopefully several years from now)? Someone had mentioned on an earlier thread about changing them out before the 36,000 miles period (I assume due to warrenty issues, although I also read that the broken plugs weren't being covered by warrenty) and was wondering if this is something for me to also keep in mind.

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Old Nov 24, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by milkthegoat
The Matco set I have is BPR65. And the spark plugs that came in my 04 were PZT2FT (not 100% sure on that part #), but i replaced those plugs with plugs that supposedly fixed the breaking problem, which are in the newer F150s. The part # is PZT14F.

Thanks, The new plugs I put in are Motocraft PZT14F. Also, I used a high temp (2100*F) anti-seize on the new plugs, so hopefully they wont break next time.


Yeah, the Matco one does. You have to use the other shorter and thicker bolt to get the bigger piece of the porcelain out.
Just to keep things straight, the PZT14F is just a higher temp plug to correct temp issue with the 3V engine, it did not address the brackage issue at all. That plug did not come out till after the 2008 trucks were already being sold and is a completely different plug. Will not fit in the early 2008s and prior 3v.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 07:41 PM
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You didn't answer my question. The Matco tool looks like it pushes the porcelain down like the Lisle Tool does. Is this correct?

John
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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The Matco tool does push the porcelain down.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:01 PM
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I've said it before, but I'll help in ANY plug change in Western Kentucky.

I've changed mine 3 times, zero problems.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 09:06 PM
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[QUOTE=nhsd;3465291]
Originally Posted by milkthegoat
The Matco set I have is BPR65. And the spark plugs that came in my 04 were PZT2FT (not 100% sure on that part #), but i replaced those plugs with plugs that supposedly fixed the breaking problem, which are in the newer F150s. The part # is PZT14F.

I recently purchased my 2008 Super Crew 5.4 and was wondering from the above statement, have they fixed this spark plug problem? I have about 1,500 miles on mine at this point and just wanted to know if I need to be concerned about my plugs when the time comes (hopefully several years from now)? Someone had mentioned on an earlier thread about changing them out before the 36,000 miles period (I assume due to warrenty issues, although I also read that the broken plugs weren't being covered by warrenty) and was wondering if this is something for me to also keep in mind.

Thanks.
From what I have seen and read the spark plug issues were on the 04-08 trucks with an engine build date of 10/09/2007 and before. According to that info engines with build date after that should be ok.

This is where I got that info
http://www.fcsdchemicalsandlubricant...d/tsb/0819.pdf

I AM NOT SAYING YOU ARE IN THE CLEAR, as I am not 100% sure, just going by info found on the web. Check your engine build date (look at your engine, on one of the valve covers you should find it)

Also from what Ive seen, spark plug issues are not under warranty. People are changing them early to avoid breakage problems, changed mine at 15K with no problems and replaced with ones from brisk racing
 

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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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any idea when you got broken plugs, but the shield, the porcelain and part of the electrode still there? just the hex jam nut and the upper porcelain half came out, so any help?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2008 | 11:35 PM
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I'm still wondering if anybody has the gonads to try a homemade weld at the shield/jam nut joint to strengthen it to a one piece level. I'm not that mechanically inclined or else I'd try it myself. Just wondering if it would actually fit in the plug well and fire. Anybody got a welder want to play "fix the sparkplug"?
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 12:25 AM
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I've got a lot of Matco tools in my garage, along with SnapOn tools. I should buy one of those tools... thanks for the PNs... I'm going to talk to my Matco rep about those tools. Handy to have, I'll tell ya. Even though I don't own a 5.4l, you never know who might need one.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by milkthegoat
Yup, sure did. And Still broke 3. Total time of removal and installation with 3 broken plugs was 2 hrs. Not too bad.
Well that may be some problem right there.... It says to let the penetrating oil soak for a few hours before you start working. If it only took 3 hours you did not let the oil do its job.. Well I hope my luck will be as good as yours when I go to attempt this
 
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Old Dec 15, 2008 | 09:17 AM
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my local dealer said they would have to keep truck overnight to let it soak... and it would run a little over 300$ plugs are 18$ a piece, so i waiting till 100,000, assuming i even have truck then...
 
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