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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 08:28 PM
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Had It With Ford and Their 10 Speed Transmission

I have had enough of Ford and their dealerships blowing off problems with their 10 speed transmission. Someone is going to get killed when one of these don't shift right. I am a Maintenance Director for a large fleet (including Fords) and have never seen this kind of apathy from any manufacturer. If you want to get Ford's attention, go the the below web site and file a safety complain with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. There are enough stories on just this forum to initiate a safety investigation if everyone files a complaint.

https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/
 
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Old Sep 3, 2019 | 08:41 PM
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Just found out someone has filed a class action lawsuit in IL against Ford for failure to fix the 10 speed problems.

https://www.classaction.org/news/cla...nd-erratically
 
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 11:45 AM
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Hi what exactly is wrong with the 10 spd?
I'm a Ram guy who WAS wanting to move back to Ford
(2.7 ecoboost 10 spd)
New 19 model
I really like the new Ford, but if trans issues are going to crop up I'm gonna pass
I got better things to do than take my truck back and forth to the dealer 10 times
Should I just keep my tried and true HEMI with the 8 spd?
 
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Old Sep 10, 2019 | 07:37 PM
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Intermittent hard shifting and a high speed stumble. Sometimes coming out of 3d under a moderate acceleration, it feels like someone stabs and releases the brakes hard enough to lock the seat belt retractor. The dealer reflashed the TCM the first time and the problem went away for a few thousand miles. The 2d time, the dealer said they found nothing wrong. The 3d time, they said the hard shift was normal operation. The threat of a lawyer caused them to look again and they found the torque converter failed. A torque converter is a 1 day job, 2 if you need the part. They have had the truck over a week and have yet to tell me what else they found.

I love the rest of the truck. '18 Supercrew XLT, 4x4, 5.0. Most of the time, the transmission is great. Smooth shifting and 20+ mpg highway if I keep it at 70. I recently drove about 250 miles on mountain roads in NC and got over 22 mpg. You hardly notice pulling my 6,000 horse trailer and it only drops about 1/2 mpg. But for what I paid for the truck, I won't put up with the trans issue. Ford just doesn't care. I am a fleet maintenance director in real life and have a lot of F-450s. They still blew me off when I called corporate. Ford need to step up and solve the problem. I've been driving Ford trucks since 1976 and this is the first one I have been disappointed with.

Stay away from the 2.7 if you plan on towing or hauling. I don't care what the PR guys say, you can't hang a couple turbos on a small 6 cylinder, crank the rpms real high and pretend it is a V8. You are going to spend a bundle on failed turbos before something serious lets go, as a coworker found out towing his camper.
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cold Steel
Intermittent hard shifting and a high speed stumble. Sometimes coming out of 3d under a moderate acceleration, it feels like someone stabs and releases the brakes hard enough to lock the seat belt retractor. The dealer reflashed the TCM the first time and the problem went away for a few thousand miles. The 2d time, the dealer said they found nothing wrong. The 3d time, they said the hard shift was normal operation. The threat of a lawyer caused them to look again and they found the torque converter failed. A torque converter is a 1 day job, 2 if you need the part. They have had the truck over a week and have yet to tell me what else they found.

I love the rest of the truck. '18 Supercrew XLT, 4x4, 5.0. Most of the time, the transmission is great. Smooth shifting and 20+ mpg highway if I keep it at 70. I recently drove about 250 miles on mountain roads in NC and got over 22 mpg. You hardly notice pulling my 6,000 horse trailer and it only drops about 1/2 mpg. But for what I paid for the truck, I won't put up with the trans issue. Ford just doesn't care. I am a fleet maintenance director in real life and have a lot of F-450s. They still blew me off when I called corporate. Ford need to step up and solve the problem. I've been driving Ford trucks since 1976 and this is the first one I have been disappointed with.

Stay away from the 2.7 if you plan on towing or hauling. I don't care what the PR guys say, you can't hang a couple turbos on a small 6 cylinder, crank the rpms real high and pretend it is a V8. You are going to spend a bundle on failed turbos before something serious lets go, as a coworker found out towing his camper.
Think the transmission issues are overblown, even on owners with the 5.0. I know SEVERAL people with 2018 and 2019's which have never had the issue. My brother has a SCREW 5.0 4x4 FX4 and tows an 18' camper, a boat and a motorcycle trailer REGULARLY and never has hasd issue 1, he's got close to 50k on it too. He's just got the 3.55 rear too. I've DRIVEN it too when it was new, and again recently, still drives like a champ. It's a "job 2" kind of late 2018.

I have a 2015 SCREW 5.0, and while it's got the 6 speed, no issues either.

I think there WERE some issues early on, especially when mated with the 5.0, but I think for the most part, those have been resolved. If Ford is turning their back on early 2018 owners, that's bad on them, but pretty sure this issue is fixed. Chevy owners on the other hand (same tranny), watch out...
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by tbird71
Hi what exactly is wrong with the 10 spd?
I'm a Ram guy who WAS wanting to move back to Ford
(2.7 ecoboost 10 spd)
New 19 model
I really like the new Ford, but if trans issues are going to crop up I'm gonna pass
I got better things to do than take my truck back and forth to the dealer 10 times
Should I just keep my tried and true HEMI with the 8 spd?
Don't listen to some of the whiners on here...
 
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Old Sep 23, 2019 | 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Cold Steel

Stay away from the 2.7 if you plan on towing or hauling. I don't care what the PR guys say, you can't hang a couple turbos on a small 6 cylinder, crank the rpms real high and pretend it is a V8. You are going to spend a bundle on failed turbos before something serious lets go, as a coworker found out towing his camper.
Also, NOBODY is marketing the 2.7 as a towing motor... NOBODY.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crazynip
Don't listen to some of the whiners on here...
And what would you say if your new truck was in the transmission shop 4 times in 14,000 miles? The problems are not overblown, nor are they limited to just early builds. I talked to a guy with a brand new 19 last week and he was having the same problems. There is a reason Ford and GM are being sued over the 10 speed transmission.
 
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Old Sep 24, 2019 | 06:54 PM
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Also, NOBODY is marketing the 2.7 as a towing motor... NOBODY.
Baloney, it's rated to tow over 7000#.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 07:39 PM
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Sorry about your issues with the 10 speed transmission. I have a 2004 lariat with 61,000 miles on it. Runs like its still brand new. I will trade you, my truck for your truck. I will and can deal with your transmission issue.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2019 | 08:02 PM
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I can admit, Ford hasn't had the greatest of track record of certain transmissions, but neither has the Chrysler group or GM.

The CD4E being one of them. A lot of good cars with the stout 24v v6 Duratec went to the cruncher way earlier than necessary, because the CD4E was terrible. Ford made the bigger mistake of putting in a compact SUV and adapting it with a PTO (4x4). I had a Ford Escape that had that junk transmission. Even the mechanics at Ford that worked on it, knew it was not designed for it's application.

The Mopar group isn't any better... look at some of the rubbish they've made. I know I wouldn't have kept my '07 Jeep Compass for as long as I have if it had the dreaded CVT. I heard those go between 30-50k miles. Glad I went with a standard on that car, especially with the GEMA 2.4l i4. Tough machine, except for the suspension and brakes are a complete joke.

Some regulars on here, notice I bash my '07 Jeep Compass because of it garbage brakes and suspension. I knew what I was buying into. I made sure I stayed clear of the smaller engines, and get the larger engine with the manual transmission. I knew that the suspension was junk. <--- Doing my research! I knew what I could handle in my own garage. I can (and have 5x already!), replaced all four corners! Most of which I can do in 2 days and have a brand new suspension. Again, I played my cards, I'd rather have a reliable engine, a reliable transmission, and junk suspension.

My contribution to this is, and the point I'm getting across is: Do your homework on what you are willing to buy into. No vehicle is going to be perfect. No one is forcing you to buy that particular vehicle.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 06:57 AM
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No one is asking for a perfect vehicle; there is no such thing. But when a new component has a history of premature failures, the manufacturer needs to step up and do something about it. My problem isn't with the transmission, it is Ford's and the dealers' attitude toward the issue. The 10 speed had problems when it was first introduced in 2015, not unusual for new technology. 4 model years later the problem still exists on brand new vehicles and we have trouble getting it fixed? That is a management problem. I'm the maintenance director for a public transit system and deal with new technology daily. When we have a problem with a hybrid/electric drive bus, one phone call gets next-day service from the manufacturers of the bus and drive systems. Their competitor does not offer that kind of support and wants to know why we don't buy their product.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 08:52 AM
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Havent had any major issue out of my [early] 2018 5.0. Hard to say Ford "turned their back" on us, they have done atleast two major software patches since I've owned the truck for 18 months




Keep in mind your issues *could* be with a single dealership, which is likely a privately owned/operated business that is affiliated with Ford.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 08:55 AM
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The 10 speed had problems when it was first introduced in 2015, not unusual for new technology. 4 model years later the problem still exists on brand new vehicles and we have trouble getting it fixed? That is a management problem..
The 10spd was first available in 2017 and it was a partial run.
Only the 3.5 EB in 2017 had the 10spd

2018 was the first year of the 10spd for the 5.0 and 2.7EB
 
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Old Sep 28, 2019 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by tbird71
Hi what exactly is wrong with the 10 spd?
I'm a Ram guy who WAS wanting to move back to Ford
(2.7 ecoboost 10 spd)
New 19 model
I really like the new Ford, but if trans issues are going to crop up I'm gonna pass
I got better things to do than take my truck back and forth to the dealer 10 times
Should I just keep my tried and true HEMI with the 8 spd?
I wouldn't worry about it, 10 speed issues aren't as widespread as some make it seem. My truck was built on 11/07/16 and mines been perfect from day one, currently @ 38K miles.
 
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