People love big numbers, but in reality the powertrains have far surpassed the chassis capabilities in regards to towing and hauling. Want big diesel numbers? Than step up to a platform capable of acually using that power, F250 or bigger.

I agree, but even 480 lbs and up torque would be great. You just want to have enough horsepower to keep your speed up. Been there and done that with a truck that had great diesel torque and little horsepower.

Mike all you need is to trade in the 5.slow and get the Eco. Plug in a tune and POW! Instant 500+ lb/ft of torque when you want it and great mpg when you don't!!!! :thumbsup:

Na, I don't want the Ecolimp, I like getting to my destination without stalling out. :D Besides a tune will only make that little engine self destruct even faster.

the 5.slow gets about the same MPG as the ego booster (maybe even better)when not towing, and better when towing so ill keep my 5.slow over the ego booster!

I never wanted to race up a hill with 7000 LBS hanging on to the @$$ of my truck, plus the 3.5 seem to lack motor braking like the v8's seem to have. granted its not a diesel with tons of motor brake but its still better than the v6's:banana:

I'd be willing to bet that the 5.0's engine braking isn't that much more significant than the Eco's. At least to where you would notice that much of a difference and the mpg is a toss up between the two so you can't really argue that.

No one is talking about racing up any hills.Coming from towing with older diesels I'm use to climbing hills at low rpm's with very little downshifting to maintain speed. The Eco is as close as you can get to know what it's like towing with a diesel. I also towed with a 07 5.4L and i still remember picking up speed before a hill just so i could try and make it to the top without going under the speed limit and having it downshift and rev to the moon. Now I'm sure the 5.0 with the 6 spd is much better than the 5.4L w/ 4spd trans but it still isn't an Eco.:D

That's not even mentioning towing at high elevations where the 5.0 would fall on it's face gasping for air while the Eco doesn't skip a beat!:whistle:

Good grief.

Let's leave the EB out of the equation for just a minute.

The 5.0 is a better GAS tow motor than anything else Ford has ever built for 1 ton and lighter trucks except for the 6.2 and V-10, and MAYBE a tweaked 460. All this arguing is giving me a headache and has probably chased the original poster away.

Nope, he's still here. He replies when I comment on how productive and informative this thread is.

Dodge now offers rear air assist for their trucks. Should help raise payload numbers

The airbag suspension on the new Ram half tons does not increase payload or the tow rating.

Exactly, while I'll never own a GM POS, I did consider the Ram until I seen their car like capacities. So disappointing with a new platform. Guess their 3/4 and 1 tons are excellent but their 1/2 tons have the capacities of a midsize unibody car. :confused:

Think you need to check your info again, the 2013 have the updated parts and that problem is not a concern.

Thanks internet police officer :thumbsup:, i do not have the st tires on the trailer, i have p series tires on the trailer with a 500lb atv on it.. Running it up to 90 mph and back down to 75 would not have caused a tire blowout.. I know how to keep a eye on my tires.

Not true, there are people with 2013 Ecoboosts with the new IC and still having the same issues. It's not fixed.

All I know is mine is fixed. I think they may have other issues. coil etc.

Sorry. Below is a forum dedicated to the problems of a Eco and even on the 2013. Drill a hole in the intercooler on ecoboost (that will fix it) :)


http://www.f150ecoboost.net/forum/31...boost-problems