If TSB 12-10-19 is the fix why on another forum has it not fixed the problem for 13 out of 20 trucks?

http://tinyurl.com/czsm4cv

 

Ive read alot on it and if it still does it most change plugs and gap them to .030 problem solved.. Something about fouling out the plugs when the truck is shaking and misfiring.

 

Mine is at the dealership now for the problem, 2012 Eco-boost. I wonder if I have to ask to have the plugs checked, or would they do it on their own.

It's been there for two days as they had an "issue" with the parts they ordered....

 

Im sure you would have to ask.. they will probaly charge you also... Ive heard from alot of sources that these engines are a piece of cake to change the plugs... if they dont offer to do it then i would do it my self..

Ford messed up the gapping on the OEM plugs and this is part of the problem with the Ecoboost shudder at 55-60mph. The spark plug gaps are all over the place from. 035 to. 046 on just one members engine. Alot of members are checking and have found the same issues and after gapping them to. 030 the engines run better along with the shudder disappearing

 

it took 20,000+ complaints for Toyota and ntsb to realize that a recall was needed for the accelerator pedal issue...at first Toyota issued a tsb on the floormats being the issue but that wasn't the problem...

 

They ended up installing a brand new intercooler along with a "guard" of some sort along with a reflash.

I have not yet taken it out for a test drive, but hopefully this will correct the issue.

 

In the 2.0L 4 cyl Ecoboost that is in several Jag/Land Rover products we have a tune update for intercooler issues. The intercooler condenses internally, then when you hit WOT or heavy acceleration, the water gets picked up in the air stream, causes a misfire, and engine backs off throttle and power to preserve engine and catalysts. The update makes the PCM less sensative to momentary misfires for the initial burst of WOT.

 

It happen to me also but the problem happen under light acceleration at 70 mph. My dealer at the time never heard of the problem but as soon as I presented the tsb they ordered the parts right away. The tsb took all day so I don't see a recall coming any day soon. I still don't know if the tsb solved the problem but I will find out in a few weeks when I take anoth road trip.

 

I'm going to agree with Wookie's earlier sentiment. If another driver's vehicle fails to accelerate for whatever reason and you rear-end them it is TOTALLY your fault because you were following too closely.

Also, this isn't a safety issue no matter how you try to spin it. Even though your acceleration is impeded you still have complete control of the vehicle. My Ecoboost suffered the same issue in the worst case-scenario; passing on a 2 lane highway (and once passing a line of 5 vehicles). There was nothing that was unsafe about it. I was still able to complete my passes. If it had fallen on its face any worse I could have just as easily let off the accelerator and fallen back in behind the vehicle(s) I was passing.

The dealer that performed the TSB on my truck took only 12 hours to do it. I took the truck in at 2PM on Thursday and I got a call to pick it up at 2PM on Friday. The next big rainstorm I encountered I stomped the gas and no more misfire. I really don't see what there is to sue over unless these guys have really awful dealerships to go to.

 

That is not necessarily true in Texas. I rear ended a driver that came into my lane and stopped. She got the ticket and her insurance paid. I was in the outside lane on a freeway,she was on the inside, both at about 60 mph. She cut in front of me to take an exit, was going to miss it and stopped. I can picture something similar happening with a truck that takes a nosedive and a driver that has to react quickly.

 

Your situation is very different than a truck just not going. In your situation the person cut in front of you then stopped because she missed her turn. When the Ecoboosts have their problem the truck does not come to a complete stop, unless the driver stops the truck. If you are expecting the driver in front of you to speed up, but they don't and you run into them it is your fault. If you are going along and a person changes lane to be in front of you then comes to a complete stop they are at fault, and a ticket for one of several things can be written. Generally speaking the person following is always going to be at fault. If the person in front is found at fault it is one of the exceptions (like changing lanes then stopping).

 

You're lucky that didn't happen in AZ. Here, the driver hitting from the rear is ALWAYS at fault unless it can be proved that the driver ahead pulled a maneuver like you described. Good luck doing that unless you had a dash cam.

 

You never know what a befuddled driver's reaction may be when they panic. I agree about the generalization, but my point is it can be a dangerous situation and could lead to death or injury.

 

PickupTrucks.com has picked up on the EcoBoost lawsuit story today. It is written by Larry Edsall, a full-size pickup truck hater and compact Nissan Frontier owner. Feel free to post a comment in the comments section.

http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/05...liter-v-6.html

 

I heard on the news Sunday evening that 95 people had joined the lawsuit against the FOMOCO.

Here is a link to the Law Firm whose handling it:

http://www.bohrernationallawfirm.com...d-F150-Claims/