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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 04:53 PM
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Help with thrown code

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My engine idiot light just came on in my 2010 and the local Autozone guy said the code is P2096. His computer didn't have a Ford specific definition for this code. Can anyone help with what it might be, and would this fall under warrantee (I'm right under 40k miles).

I can't get to a dealer without taking vacation time off work, so could this wait until next Saturday? I drive approx 80 miles a day.

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Bruce
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 05:53 PM
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That looks like a Dodge error code.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 06:01 PM
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P2096 - post catalyst fuel trim system low limit

The explanation is: The ECM has detected that the fuel trim bias has been commanded lean for more than the allowable calibrated time frame

Probable cause:
-Leaking fuel injector or fuel pressure regulator
-Faulty MAF sensor
-High fuel pressure
-Failed H02S

I also saw that this can be indicative of a bad tank of gas or a failing cat.

Get it in to the dealer, but you should be okay driving it this week.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 12:51 AM
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Did you have him clear the code and see if it comes back? I would.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2012 | 01:12 AM
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Autozone won't clear the code - at least they are not SUPPOSED to by law. Some will, some won't, some will hand you the scanner and tell you what buttons to push to clear it.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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Autozone won't clear the code - at least they are not SUPPOSED to by law. Some will, some won't, some will hand you the scanner and tell you what buttons to push to clear it.
What law is that? Since the regulations (not laws) that created the need for OBD and OBDII codes are not regulated by an agency with judicial prosecution powers, I'd sure like an explanation of what law would keep them from clearing a check engine light.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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The EPA anti-tampering law, which is widely ignored till someone gets caught. They do send people out for stings. The code is not supposed to be cleared until a repair is done.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 01:30 AM
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Self code clearing...... Just another perk of owning a tuner. A minor perk relative to the tune benefits, but a perk nonetheless.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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The EPA anti-tampering law, which is widely ignored till someone gets caught. They do send people out for stings. The code is not supposed to be cleared until a repair is done.
There is no such law. The EPA cannot make laws or enforce them.

The EPA has regulations against changing emissions related components, and even has a regulation against a DEALER turning off codes on a vehicle for sale without a repair, but there are no "laws" against a private citizen having a check engine or other warning light on or off on their vehicle, or how those lights turn on, or how they get turned off.

Many states have REGULATIONS about vehicle inspection, and whether the emissions related processes of monitoring engine management systems can be manipulated, but there are no LAWS.

Try again, Spanky.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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Okay - REGULATION. That regulation covers any BUSINESS, codes may not be cleared without a repair. Clear them YOURSELF and you can't be touched.

It's the same REGULATION that can fine a repair shop $10,000 for cutting out cats.
 
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Old Aug 24, 2012 | 04:15 PM
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Okay - REGULATION. That regulation covers any BUSINESS, codes may not be cleared without a repair. Clear them YOURSELF and you can't be touched.

It's the same REGULATION that can fine a repair shop $10,000 for cutting out cats.
Uh, no.

The Clean Air Act requires that vehicles have catalytic converters, it also requires that vehicles of a certain year manufacture have On Board Diagnostic systems (OBD). However, the Clean Air Act does not say anything about who can or cannot clear those codes. As I said before, it allows states to put rules in effect that govern the testing of OBD systems as part of an inspection, and whether the state will allow those vehicles to remain in use if the vehicle's OBD system displays a fault (light or code), but there are no regulations regarding who can clear a code.

If you want to sound educated, get an education. Here's a great start:http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-AIR/...-20/a23669.htm

But still no "laws". Financial penalties and legal penalties are very different, just as the Administrative Branch of our government and the Judicial Branch are very different.
 
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