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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 03:09 PM
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BDS 2.5" leveling?

On their website, they advertise a 1" block to maintain factory rake (which I want). My question, how does a 1" block in the back equate to the fronts 2.5" kit?

Also, do I also need the rear shocks? What's the pros/cons of getting them versus not, and do the Fox 2.0 provide anything over the 5500s?

Thanks for helping a noob!

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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You don't need shocks.

The +1" in the rear provides some rake, but it is nowhere near as extreme as the factory rake. It would be like putting a 1.5" in the front and nothing in the rear.

This is a BDS 2.5"/1":

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperCruzin
You don't need shocks.

The +1" in the rear provides some rake, but it is nowhere near as extreme as the factory rake. It would be like putting a 1.5" in the front and nothing in the rear.

This is a BDS 2.5"/1":
SuperCruzin, that is a sweet looking F150! That picture shows a slight rake which is what I want. I'm not a fan of the true level look. Are those 34X11.5 tires?

I know you said I didn't need the shocks, but what benefit do they provide? Sorry for being a noob at this! I've owned several trucks, but this is the first truck I've owned I've decided to modify from the factory setup.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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SuperCruzin, that is a sweet looking F150! That picture shows a slight rake which is what I want. I'm not a fan of the true level look. Are those 34X11.5 tires?
Thanks. I prefer slight rake instead of slight reverse rake. I knew I was going to add a bedliner and install a cap or tonneau... I know that's not much weight, but I wanted to be sure it did not somehow end up nose high.

Tires are 305/55R20 (or approx. 33x12.0)

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I know you said I didn't need the shocks, but what benefit do they provide? Sorry for being a noob at this! I've owned several trucks, but this is the first truck I've owned I've decided to modify from the factory setup.
Maybe allow a little more articulation? I doubt it though as a 1" block is a pretty insignificant change

I don't know if they provide any benefit other than looks. My thought process at the time was that my OE shocks (already offroad pkg - if that means anything) had < 300 miles on them when the lift went in so there was no point in replacing them.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 05:51 PM
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Thanks! I think I've decided on the BDS 2.5/1"

Last question, are you happy with it?

Again, I appreciate the pics and info...you've been a tremendous help!
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 06:58 PM
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No problem and thank you.

Yes I am completely happy with it. - I suppose if had have given me 6" of lift i'd be happier (LOL) but for what it is I am happy.

If I was to do anything different, it would be to order a pair of 2.5" Raptor blocks instead of using the factory 1.25" and 1" BDS block. It would have given me an extra .25" lift (would that have been too much? I dunno, I doubt it) and also would have given me a single block in the rear vs the stacked block setup you end up with running the BDS setup. Don't get me wrong, the BDS setup is completely safe, I guess I am just nitpicking.

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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 07:19 PM
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No problem and thank you.

Yes I am completely happy with it. - I suppose if had have given me 6" of lift i'd be happier (LOL) but for what it is I am happy.

If I was to do anything different, it would be to order a pair of 2.5" Raptor blocks instead of using the factory 1.25" and 1" BDS block. It would have given me an extra .25" lift (would that have been too much? I dunno, I doubt it) and also would have given me a single block in the rear vs the stacked block setup you end up with running the BDS setup. Don't get me wrong, the BDS setup is completely safe, I guess I am just nitpicking.
I really appreciate the info! I like the look of the 6" lift too, but this is a daily driver and I imagine I'll keep it for awhile, so I just want to give it some attitude while keeping the ride quality as close to stock as possible.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 11:34 PM
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I have the same BDS system with the 1-inch rear block which keeps the rake except I am running 295/60R20s (34.5 inch tall) Nittos. I also like this system so far.





 
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Old Jul 16, 2012 | 11:48 PM
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Desert Dawg,

Do you like the 295/60s better than the 305/55s you had on the white EB? I really like the aggressive look the Trail Grapplers have.

Both of those trucks are just sick! My wife fell in love with the White EB of yours. It's because of that truck I've been given the go ahead to spend $$$

Thanks for the info. I can't wait to give my F150 a similar look!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 12:03 AM
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Hi Cosmo....

Yes, I like the taller but slightly narrower stance of the 295s over the 305s. Also, my white EcoBoost had +14mm offset wheels which combined with the wider 305s meant I was constantly throwing debris all over my truck because the Trails really do throw. Also, the wider 305s stuck out a lot and made for a very noisey highway ride as the Trails do howl. But I went with +18mm wheels and narrower Trails on my Plat, so the tires are now tucked a tad more into the wheel well making it much more tolerable on keeping the truck clean and less intrusive noise into the cab.

Glad I could help on the wife issue with mods!!!!
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 02:02 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperCruzin
If I was to do anything different, it would be to order a pair of 2.5" Raptor blocks instead of using the factory 1.25" and 1" BDS block. It would have given me an extra .25" lift (would that have been too much? I dunno, I doubt it) and also would have given me a single block in the rear vs the stacked block setup you end up with running the BDS setup. Don't get me wrong, the BDS setup is completely safe, I guess I am just nitpicking.
Yeah I would want a single block. Stacking blocks isn't really the best way to go about things. Autospring has a 2" block which is what I'm running in the rear to go along with my 2" Autospring and it's a quality piece.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Desert Dawg
Hi Cosmo....

Yes, I like the taller but slightly narrower stance of the 295s over the 305s. Also, my white EcoBoost had +14mm offset wheels which combined with the wider 305s meant I was constantly throwing debris all over my truck because the Trails really do throw. Also, the wider 305s stuck out a lot and made for a very noisey highway ride as the Trails do howl. But I went with +18mm wheels and narrower Trails on my Plat, so the tires are now tucked a tad more into the wheel well making it much more tolerable on keeping the truck clean and less intrusive noise into the cab.

Glad I could help on the wife issue with mods!!!!
Interesting point about debris and road noise. What do you think about a 20mm offset with 295/55R20 Trail Grapplers?

This would give the same footprint and be slightly less tall, but would be a 2mm offset difference from your setup.

Do you think there would be any issues with rubbing, etc.?
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 10:11 AM
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LOL. Desert Dawg's truck is what sold me on the BDS 2.5".

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Interesting point about debris and road noise. What do you think about a 20mm offset with 295/55R20 Trail Grapplers?
Desert Dawg is also comparing an XLT to a Platinum. I'm pretty sure the Lariats and Platinums have more sound deadening insulation... that's going to change the perception a bit too.

also worth noting...
The little "flares" (if you want to call them that) on the premium trucks provide an extra 7-10mm coverage on each side... so any given wheel on an XLT is going to look more aggressive than the same wheel on an FX, Lariat, Platinum. These same little "flares" are also responsible for causing certain combos that clear on an XLT to rub on a truck that has them.

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This would give the same footprint and be slightly less tall, but would be a 2mm offset difference from your setup. Do you think there would be any issues with rubbing, etc.?
That tire is going to end up being about 1.5" smaller (just under 33") in overall diameter. If DD clears his, you will have NO problems. Your 2mm (inward) difference will also work in your favor. The more you push your tire out, the more likely it will catch on the back of your flares and the little spoiler underneath on the front. This is why the guys leveled on stock wheels can get away with a little taller tire than those who go with a more aggressive offset.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Yeah I would want a single block. Stacking blocks isn't really the best way to go about things. Autospring has a 2" block which is what I'm running in the rear to go along with my 2" Autospring and it's a quality piece.
I have to agree with this too. I was thinking about switching out to a single 2-inch block to also just make the truck sit level since I don't haul anything too heavy in the rear anyway.

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Interesting point about debris and road noise. What do you think about a 20mm offset with 295/55R20 Trail Grapplers?

This would give the same footprint and be slightly less tall, but would be a 2mm offset difference from your setup.

Do you think there would be any issues with rubbing, etc.?
You will gain about 1/2-inch in extra width but with the shorter diameter on the more positive offset wheels, you should still be good and not have any issues rubbing on the inner wheel well liner or air dam. The concern would be getting too close to the UCAs with the wider tires and positive offset, but you are nowhere near stock at +44mm so should still be good.



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LOL. Desert Dawg's truck is what sold me on the BDS 2.5".


Desert Dawg is also comparing an XLT to a Platinum. I'm pretty sure the Lariats and Platinums have more sound deadening insulation... that's going to change the perception a bit too.

also worth noting...
The little "flares" (if you want to call them that) on the premium trucks provide an extra 7-10mm coverage on each side... so any given wheel on an XLT is going to look more aggressive than the same wheel on an FX, Lariat, Platinum. These same little "flares" are also responsible for causing certain combos that clear on an XLT to rub on a truck that has them.


That tire is going to end up being about 1.5" smaller (just under 33") in overall diameter. If DD clears his, you will have NO problems. Your 2mm (inward) difference will also work in your favor. The more you push your tire out, the more likely it will catch on the back of your flares and the little spoiler underneath on the front. This is why the guys leveled on stock wheels can get away with a little taller tire than those who go with a more aggressive offset.
lol...glad to help out....lol.

Yeah, I am not sure how much more if any additional deadening insulation there is but I still noticed a difference with the windows opened (but does make you wonder if a lot of it is "perception"....lol).

I agree that the factory "flares" provide some measure of extra protection, but with the wheels and tires sticking out 2 inches past the fenders on my EB, it wasn't much protection. But I did clear the 305s with a 2-inch level and +14mm offset with absolutely no issues at all, so I agree Cosmo will be fine with his proposed setup. Even with my narrower 295s and slightly more positive offset of my new wheels on my Plat, I still had to trim the lower fender flare where it tucks into the wheel well and also had to trim the front air dam too.
 
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