2012 f150 crank no start on incline 1/6 fuel
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OK, I get it. I will keep the gas up.
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
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OK, I get it. I will keep the gas up.
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
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OK, I get it. I will keep the gas up.
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
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OK, I get it. I will keep the gas up.
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
The reasons why I have this post is 1.) This is my first Ford Truck. 2.) I had worked as a Design Quality Assurance Engineer for IBM, Texas Instruments, Acer on laptop computers. It means, I get to test extreme scenarios users might do to these computers(leave them out in the sun, plug the wrong cord, dropped them, stepped on them, etc.) to find and fix **** that might happen. It has become second nature to me to checkout crap on products.
This just stands out on my list because unlike computers, this is a $35,000 machine and I feel more could have been done. Could Ford send me more samples of their cars and trucks, I'd like to do quality assurance for them. where do i apply?
I am confused.. What do you want it to do ? Read your mind? The miles to empty fluctuates as your instantaneous MPG changes .. it is simple math .. If you are sitting still, or creeping along, your MPG sucks and the MTE number goes down, as it should. It isn't 100% accurate, but there is no way to make it so without plugging it into the GPS and you filing a driving plan every time you go somewhere.
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I have a hellacious incline on my driveway, never really thought about problems with running the pump dry cause I never let her drop below a 1/4 tank. I park backed up the incline cause the local ford dealer claims my rear shaft seal is seeping so maybe that helps my situation, but been in the house only a couple months and so far haven't experienced any problems. My crazy girlfriend on the other hand, I come home one night and she tells me our expedition had trouble starting and ran rough for a minute. Sure enough she let the fuel level get real low. Had to explain to her real quick not to do that crap or she can pay for the burned out fuel pump.
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It has nothing to do with the onboard computer - its a design flaw
I had the exact same thing happen - I have about 1/6th to 1/8th of a tank of gas left and parked my 2012 F150 on an incline. Next morning it wouldn't start... According to the Ford dealer service dept - the fuel pickup is in the middle of the tank, so parking on an incline will cause the fuel to flow to one side or the other.
Also, the guy at the service dept also told me that this happens to the trucks they park out on a grass hill for display - if the gas is too low, the salesmen have to roll it down onto the street to get it to start.
This is 100% a design flaw- The salesman never told me "don't let the gas get too low or it won't start on an incline" and there's no disclaimer sticker on the dash stating the same.
This is also a safety issue - there are numerous steep hills where I live (Seattle) and you aren't going to have an oppurtunity to get the truck on to a flat surface - possibly stranding the driver which could be my wife with our small children.
I'm pretty unhappy - I NEVER would have bought the truck if I'd realized there was a known issue like this. I mean, what's the point of having a 36 gallon gas tank? So you don't run out of gas... Oh, but you can't actually USE the 36 gallons of gas if you live in a hilly area. And like my 125 lb wife with two toddlers wants to deal with trying to roll an unpowerd truck down a busy city street to start it. Not what I'd call a selling point either.
Also, the guy at the service dept also told me that this happens to the trucks they park out on a grass hill for display - if the gas is too low, the salesmen have to roll it down onto the street to get it to start.
This is 100% a design flaw- The salesman never told me "don't let the gas get too low or it won't start on an incline" and there's no disclaimer sticker on the dash stating the same.
This is also a safety issue - there are numerous steep hills where I live (Seattle) and you aren't going to have an oppurtunity to get the truck on to a flat surface - possibly stranding the driver which could be my wife with our small children.
I'm pretty unhappy - I NEVER would have bought the truck if I'd realized there was a known issue like this. I mean, what's the point of having a 36 gallon gas tank? So you don't run out of gas... Oh, but you can't actually USE the 36 gallons of gas if you live in a hilly area. And like my 125 lb wife with two toddlers wants to deal with trying to roll an unpowerd truck down a busy city street to start it. Not what I'd call a selling point either.
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I had the exact same thing happen - I have about 1/6th to 1/8th of a tank of gas left and parked my 2012 F150 on an incline. Next morning it wouldn't start... According to the Ford dealer service dept - the fuel pickup is in the middle of the tank, so parking on an incline will cause the fuel to flow to one side or the other.
Also, the guy at the service dept also told me that this happens to the trucks they park out on a grass hill for display - if the gas is too low, the salesmen have to roll it down onto the street to get it to start.
This is 100% a design flaw- The salesman never told me "don't let the gas get too low or it won't start on an incline" and there's no disclaimer sticker on the dash stating the same.
This is also a safety issue - there are numerous steep hills where I live (Seattle) and you aren't going to have an oppurtunity to get the truck on to a flat surface - possibly stranding the driver which could be my wife with our small children.
I'm pretty unhappy - I NEVER would have bought the truck if I'd realized there was a known issue like this. I mean, what's the point of having a 36 gallon gas tank? So you don't run out of gas... Oh, but you can't actually USE the 36 gallons of gas if you live in a hilly area. And like my 125 lb wife with two toddlers wants to deal with trying to roll an unpowerd truck down a busy city street to start it. Not what I'd call a selling point either.
Also, the guy at the service dept also told me that this happens to the trucks they park out on a grass hill for display - if the gas is too low, the salesmen have to roll it down onto the street to get it to start.
This is 100% a design flaw- The salesman never told me "don't let the gas get too low or it won't start on an incline" and there's no disclaimer sticker on the dash stating the same.
This is also a safety issue - there are numerous steep hills where I live (Seattle) and you aren't going to have an oppurtunity to get the truck on to a flat surface - possibly stranding the driver which could be my wife with our small children.
I'm pretty unhappy - I NEVER would have bought the truck if I'd realized there was a known issue like this. I mean, what's the point of having a 36 gallon gas tank? So you don't run out of gas... Oh, but you can't actually USE the 36 gallons of gas if you live in a hilly area. And like my 125 lb wife with two toddlers wants to deal with trying to roll an unpowerd truck down a busy city street to start it. Not what I'd call a selling point either.
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My tank is long & narrow so 1/8 of a tank is not much fuel parked on a hill. Same answer applies to your scenario. Don't know the degree of the hills where you park but the simple solution is PUT SOME GAS IN THE TANK. Documented fact: it costs the same to drive an empty tank as a full one. Actually more if you factor in replacing the odd fuel pump. I also agree with the other posters that I doubt the other trucks with 1/16 - 1/8 of a tank would not have the same issues. Hell my ATV does the same thing. (Typed with all the humility I can muster.)
I just paid a lot of money for this truck. I expect it to operate as advertized, period. If not, I really expect them to take it back. It's a known flaw and they sold it without stating the fact, a lemon. It is also a safety issue for anyone not expecting it. In Seattle, there are plenty of parking spaces that you'd be stuck in.
I owned a GMC for 12 years prior and NEVER had anything similar, it had 1/16 - 1/8 of a tank, thousands of times, always started. THIS situation is 1/8th of a tank- that is PLENTY and the vehicle should start.
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A hundred years ago and almost everybody was still riding horses for transportation and now we have these poor excuse for guys complaining like its a crime against humanity that their trucks wont start because they let them run out of gas. Shaking my head. Society is doomed.
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U have enough money to buy these trucks but u cant afford to keep them fueled up???
Lmfao at the guy that goes to mcdonalds drive thru to put ****ty food in his body but is sitting there idleing his expensive truck with an empty tank...... Priorities buddy.
Lmfao at the guy that goes to mcdonalds drive thru to put ****ty food in his body but is sitting there idleing his expensive truck with an empty tank...... Priorities buddy.
Not trying to be a jerk, but I make $10.00 an hour, and I can keep my tank full. It's much easier to put $10.00 in her every three days to top her off, rather than letting it drop to 1/8 tank and ruin my fuel tank/pump. Perhaps budgeting an extra $20 in every week would keep the truck at 1/2 a tank, and this "design flaw" would present itself no more.
Just a thought...
Just a thought...
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all the truck can know is that you have 4 gallons left. If you are cruising the highway it tells you ..accurately... that you can go another 80 miles. If you exit and hit a few stoplights and then idle thru a burger joint drive thru it should tell you "hey buddy, keep this up and you'll be lucky to get 25 miles before its gone". That light doesn't replace the gage...it's there in case you've ignored the gage and are at risk of running dry.
