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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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A little off topic....Issue with 2001 Escape after engine cleaning

Today I cleaned the engine bays of my 2010 F150 and my 2001 Escape. After cleaning the F150 it started up fine and runs normal. However the Escape won't start now. Has anybody ever had this happen to them in any Ford vehicle? I hope that I won't have to have the car towed to the dealer tomorrow. I am going out of town on Tuesday and need to get this car running for my wife. Any help please, thanks!
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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Ok so you got things wet that werent suppose to get wet. Get WD-40 and spray down wires by the spark plugs and coil packs and see if that works. (WD= water displacement)
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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Ok so you got things wet that werent suppose to get wet. Get WD-40 and spray down wires by the spark plugs and coil packs and see if that works. (WD= water displacement)
But then I'll have to clean the engine again from all the WD40! Ha, just kidding I'll give that a shot now.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 05:11 PM
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Solution-Buy your wife a new car! You're welcome
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 05:43 PM
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Solution-Buy your wife a new car! You're welcome
This car is actually great! Over 90K miles and no issues. Of course I go and mess everything up
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 07:03 PM
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What method did you use to "clean the engine bay?" The reason I ask is that many Ford vehicles (and it pains me to say this) don't tolerate large volumes of or high pressure water under the hood. The big place it bites you is in the area of the coil packs.

I'm not sure about a 4 cylinder Escape (you didn't mention which motor it has), but the V6 has the 3 front coil packs under a plastic cover that comes off with three 8 mm nuts. Once that's pulled, you'll find the coil packs held down each with a single 8 MM bolt. Remove them, carefully remove the coil packs and inspect for water down the holes on top of the plugs. If you have any, you can blow it out with compressed air.

As for the rear coil packs, they're a pain. The upper air plenum needs to come off to get to them. It's about a 20 minute job if you know what you're doing. Get some help if you've never done it.

One really bad area to get wet is the ECM. It's housed behind a rectangular metal cover plate under the hood, on the firewall, about dead center.

Assuming you get it back up and running, let this be a warning about cleaning our engines. I detail cars on the side and refuse to detail under the hood of a Ford for this very reason. I love my truck, but I've learned to love a somewhat dirty engine compartment. Oh, and BTW, my Ford dealer recently fired a detailer who insisted on pressure washing every used car under the hood. The reason? Too many fried electrical components.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 07:20 PM
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I'd disconnect as many connection in the wiring loom as i can find. Put a fan on the rad and let everything dry out. Add a little dielectric grease before plugging it all back together.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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What method did you use to "clean the engine bay?" The reason I ask is that many Ford vehicles (and it pains me to say this) don't tolerate large volumes of or high pressure water under the hood. The big place it bites you is in the area of the coil packs.

I'm not sure about a 4 cylinder Escape (you didn't mention which motor it has), but the V6 has the 3 front coil packs under a plastic cover that comes off with three 8 mm nuts. Once that's pulled, you'll find the coil packs held down each with a single 8 MM bolt. Remove them, carefully remove the coil packs and inspect for water down the holes on top of the plugs. If you have any, you can blow it out with compressed air.

As for the rear coil packs, they're a pain. The upper air plenum needs to come off to get to them. It's about a 20 minute job if you know what you're doing. Get some help if you've never done it.

One really bad area to get wet is the ECM. It's housed behind a rectangular metal cover plate under the hood, on the firewall, about dead center.

Assuming you get it back up and running, let this be a warning about cleaning our engines. I detail cars on the side and refuse to detail under the hood of a Ford for this very reason. I love my truck, but I've learned to love a somewhat dirty engine compartment. Oh, and BTW, my Ford dealer recently fired a detailer who insisted on pressure washing every used car under the hood. The reason? Too many fried electrical components.
The Escape is an 2001 V6 3.0 Liter. I used rather simple method. I took the hose and set the nozzle to shower mode. I showered the whole engine bay. The shower mode is a very low water pressure setting. It is not intrusive like what a pressure washer would do. Then I covered the whole engine bay with diluted simple green. I took a boars brush and scrubbed away all the dirt. Finally I rinsed everything off again using the shower setting on the nozzle. I closed the hood and tried to start her up and let the heat from the engine do most of the drying. When it started it was really rough and could barely maintain 400 rpm idling. Finally it died and I can't start it now. It sounds like it wants to start. I can also smell a little gas after trying to start it.

I go to work early tomorrow. My wife is going to try and start it in the morning. It is 40 degrees here so the drying may take some time. I don't have an air compressor so I may just call my insurance and have them send a tow truck. The stealership will figure it out. I would assume that I wouldn't need any new parts and I would just be paying for labor. I don't think any electrical systems are fried because everything else works fine, it just won't start. If I have time I will check the front 3 coil packs. If they have water then I would assume the other 3 in the rear have water. I already checked the ECM. There was a little water on the outside of the harness. I used a can of compressed air and blew out the insides just to make sure, it was dry.

Thanks for the info. I don't think I will wash this cars engine bay again. I have used the same method on my F150 3 times and never had an issue.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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My wife has the same exact car except hers is a 2007 model. Every oil change I spray the entire bay down with simple green, let sit for a few minutes then rinse. I have never had a problem from doing this. I have noticed that water collects around the coil packs. I always take a fluid extractor and suck out all standing water from where ever I can. I wonder if you unplugged something while using the brush? Also check all your fuses. Theres a good chance something got wet that wasnt supposed to and you popped a fuse when you tried starting it.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by used2vtec
My wife has the same exact car except hers is a 2007 model. Every oil change I spray the entire bay down with simple green, let sit for a few minutes then rinse. I have never had a problem from doing this. I have noticed that water collects around the coil packs. I always take a fluid extractor and suck out all standing water from where ever I can. I wonder if you unplugged something while using the brush? Also check all your fuses. Theres a good chance something got wet that wasnt supposed to and you popped a fuse when you tried starting it.
I was wondering the same thing about a fuse. What's weird is that there is no check engine light on. Hopefully this is just a temporary set back and nothing is broken.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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Any updates. In the future just wipe it down. It may take longer but its less hassel.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 09:38 AM
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thats why I do not clean my engine. Its nothing I see and doesnt matter.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 05:01 PM
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Any updates. In the future just wipe it down. It may take longer but its less hassel.
I will never clean the engine again. Water is all in the intake. The dealer has to remove the whole intake and clean it out. The fuel plugs are fouled from trying to start it several times. The spark plugs are fouled too. The rep asked me if I detailed the engine and I said yes, I was so embarrassed. Anyways, they are fixing it $400 later Never again!
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 05:08 PM
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That sucks lucky you didnt hydro lock the motor. Does the engine atleast look clean. lol
 
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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That sucks lucky you didnt hydro lock the motor. Does the engine atleast look clean. lol
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