too funny!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Yeah, that is like saying that every Mustang, Camaro, Corvette, etc is abused by their driver (or should we say 60% of them).

 

I spoke with Ford a few months ago regarding the F150 coming with a diesel engine, and the project got scrapped when Ford parted ways with the International Power Stroke and went to the Scorpion 6.7L.

Personally I would love to have a diesel in my 1/2 ton...why, because the fuel economy if done right could be a tremendous improvement. For example, for over 30 years, Toyota has had a diesel engine available in the Helux (same as Tacoma) in international markets and while I'm not sure about modern figures, but in the mid 90's, that configuration was getting the equivalence of around 30-35 MPG on the highway and I think it was somewhere in the neighborhood of 20-25 MPG around town. If you take a comparable gas equipped truck, you are looking at numbers pretty similar to what we see for most V8 engines that we are driving and maybe in the range of the EcoBoost EPA numbers.

All that said, I think it would be worth it.

 

With the 2007+ EPA emissions regulations and ULSD here in the US, a diesel just doesn't get anywhere near the fuel mileage that they used to get. Just ask anyone with a 08-10 6.4 PSD what they get. I don't think anyone has seen 20 yet. Back in the early 2000's, I had a friend with a tuned 7.3 Excursion that would get an honest 26 mpg on the highway. On today's fuel, he only gets 20.

I'm waiting to hear what 2011 6.7 owners are getting now that they use urea instead of regen.

 

The 6.7 still does clean the DPF by dumping raw fuel through the engine into the exhaust.

 

Funny, but I bet he is posting from an android phone. It tends to put period after a word you choose. I don't know why, my Droid 2 Global does it all time.

But back to the OP, I read somewhere that Dodge may being moving ahead with a 1500 Cummins Diesel, this is sure to speed up the 1/2 ton Diesel option. Ford does have a 4.4 that is used in the Land Rover, but it has been quiet whether or not it is going in the 150. There have been Ford 150 spy shots with the 4.4 diesel engine.
Ford Diesel
http://www.leftlanenews.com/ford-f-1...-2010.htmlHere


Here is a link, but I read another somewhere else that was more detailed.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...-versions.html

 

Incorrect those cars are made for the purpose of being driven hard. This truck would be a cheaper way to tow a lot of weight and it would most defiantly be used to tow to much. Be real, unless you like bailing out car companies then they need to stick to making vehicles that this unconscious country can’t ruin

 

Ummm.... just me thinking here but I remember reading that the 4.4l diesel was built by international. I may be wrong. now that Ford has separated themselves from international with the new 6.7l PS why would they ever revisit the 4.4l? Besides Ecoboost is new. there is no telling what it will be capable of in the future. I could easily see an EB'd 6.2l in the super duty's future. With less cost over all. why not?

 

The 4.4 is an in-house diesel that Ford builds for Land Rover.

 

Dodge may put the diesel option in for the 1500. We'll see how many people are willing to pay the $5 - 6000 premium for this.

 

That is funny right there. Current trucks aren't made, OR a future half-ton diesel truck wouldn't be made to be used, tow, haul serious weights? Give me a break. I guess what you are saying is that trucks tday just aren't designed to be used and there is no fluff in the rating numbers. If we exceed the payload by one pound, the truck will fall to the ground... maybe not today, but surely by the end of the week.

You are all over it. I'm sure Ford is just waiting to build a 1/2 ton diesel truck that can't tow or hauland will self destruct just as you have painted. It must be a new aspect in marketing... build a real loser, tarnish reputation, and sell more trucks... it's logical?

You'd better stick with your Unimog to get groceries.

 

Everyone wants one until they build it, and then no one wants to pay the premium for the diesel. People are freaking out over $750 for the Ecoboost, never mind thousands of dollars for a diesel option.

 

I believe we have a winner!

 

Nope......... The Navistar- Ford divorce has nothing to do with it. Ford has their own baby diesel being built in Mexico right now. Whoe told you that Ford customer service reps knew anything?

 

If they make it cheap enough will it be reliable? Will it be reliable at any cost? 07-up emissions have all but killed the diesel market. I could justify the $8k extra the diesel/torqshift cost me in my F250 but no way would I pay half that for a diesel in my weekend project getter F150... I chose the F150 because it was a cheap gasser and had no diesel headaches. $100 oil changes, $150 fuel filter changes. In 2006 when diesel was $4.50-5.50 a gallon I was spending 1,500 a month in fuel and on our annual Colorado vacation it was 1,800 bucks in fuel that week. It was about 300 bucks to fill the 46gal tank...