Not really. If you want an XLT but are forced to get the Lariat in order to get the 6.2L, then you have to include that in the price difference. Frankly, I would take a very serious look at an F250 XLT before springing for the F150 Lariat if I wanted the 6.2L

 

Thanks man that eb has a sweet torque curve but i want to compare the 5.4 to 5.0. What people keep forgetting is the 5.0 is not replacing the 5.4 the EB is.so really you should compare the 5.0 to the 4.6 and the 5.4 to the EB. That being the case there is no contest.

 

It's plain to see that the Ecoboost is the best. Even the 6.2L is disappointing in it's 'peaky' nature. The 3.7L actually looks like it has the best curve next to the Ecoboost. The 5.0L curve is really bad. I wonder how it looks with the Mustang tuning.

I wonder if the HP curves are just as bad, if so, the higher ratings won't mean much when the average is more meaningful over the entire rpm range.

I'm actually surprised that Ford charted them. With as peaky as they are, I would had thought they wouldn't want to disclose that.

I remember even in the 90s, sport cars were marketing their engines flat torque curve down to the 1500 rpm area where today, they don't care.

To bad the chart doesn't display the torque scale as the different engine curves don't represent a scaled difference, they seem to be just stacked for convenience instead of scale representation.

 

The 5.0 is a way more advanced engine more power better mpg and smoother than the 5.4 but we wont be able to call it better till a few of them have 60000 or 70000 miles on them. Just my 2 cents

 

With the release of the 5.0, I'm considering a ford again. Of course I read the 17 pages in MM & FF on the new 5.0 engine in the mustang, pretty much the same engine in the truck, lots of good info. Tow ratings are just that, ratings. Ford is really concerned that the EB is gonna be a big flop, so they are bumping the tow ratings on the EB, and lowering the ratings on the 5.0. I've driven both, and I can see why, the 5.0 is a joy to drive, and the EB is laggy, and falls on it's face in the upper rpm range. I'd rather have a 5.0, let it drop a few gears when towing, and let that 5.0 sing.

 

You can get the 6.2L Lariat Screw 4x4 starting at $43k MSRP. You don't need to get the Lariat Limited.

 

Ding ding ding! We have a winner! That's what Ford WANTS people to do, because the F-250 doesn't come under CAFE - yet. The EPA numbers on the 6.2 seriously hurt the CAFE. They are offering the 6.2 in the F-150 simply to satisfy those who MUST have one, but they are making it very expensive to do so.

 

I drove an EB FX4 that was fully optioned on the EB Tour and it was a nice truck but a 4WD CrewCab with 20's. I think it was a little heavy for the EB in my opinion. I will say that my 5.0L feels peppier across the power band than the fully optioned FX4 EB. Just my opinion...

I think both engines have a future. I also think the 5.0 is a definite improvement over the '05 CrewCab 4X4 with the 5.4L 3V and 3.73 gears that I drove.

 

I bet the under 2500 rpm tq is better on the 5.4 over the 5.0 and above that the 5.0 wins all - all day long. But like an above poster said - only a comparo will tell. I recall the 5.4 marketing being all about 90+% tq at like 1500-1800 rpm?

 

The 5.4 makes more power down low where you need it for towing. With the 5.0 you really have to get into the rev range to see its full potential. The 5.0 is a great tough engine, that has already been proven in the mustang world, it makes great power and loves to rev. That is the only disadvantage of having this motor in a truck, other than that this 5.0 will be around for a long time.

Also as others have mentioned the 5.0 is replacing the 4.6 not the 5.4. I still think the 5.0 is an all around better engine than the 5.4 just not in the towing department.

 

i would but going to college makes it tough to park in those tiny spaces. the f150 is a little bit smaller.

 

Let's see if this works. Look at the blue lines. I snagged this from another forum - the thread was about a programmer, but it shows dyno charts for a stock '09 with a 5.4...

Test Conditions:

* Vehicle - 2009 F-150
* Engine - 5.4L
* Transmission - 6-Speed Automatic
* Gear - 3.73
* Fuel - 85 Octane
* Altitude - 4500 Feet
* Ambient Temp - 76º F.
* Barometric Pr. - 26.65 In. Hg.


Torque:



Horsepower:

 

Speaking of charts, anyone have a copy of the latest one I've seen at the dealer, has the 6.2L vd the other bog boys (GM 6.2 etc) in a tq chart.

 

So how were these charts done and what do they mean? Is this comparing a tuner chip?? That's what it looks like. Then how accurate is it really. According to the chart, these engines put out nothing at 2000 rpms. Something seems fishy.

 

They were lifted from these tests: https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...highlight=2009

There is nothing 'fishy' about them...

MGD