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Baja Torture Test!

Old Dec 22, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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Makes ya wonder just how much they paid McCarthy to lose the race. Trucks like these come to race with engines making tons of HP, which the Eco Boost is not going to compete with. The fuel mileage can be awesome as compared to others when you run it hard for the camera but otherwise just a rough ride in the country. I don't see Ford doing themselves any favors with this type of advertising.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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<scratching head still>

For all of us keeping tabs on the series, guess we'll see how it all comes down in the "teardown" video.

ACTUALLY, in essense, they already "semi" tore it down since they took it OUT of the original truck, and MOVED it to the modded BAJA truck. (which all the torture tests should have been in the ORIGINAL vehicle)

I have to wonder if Ford engineers did any "sneak peak" examinations of the engine when they switched it from one truck to another?

Still wondering the point in the BAJA video...
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by risupercrewman
Proven durabilty, two extra cyliners, awesome exhaust note, & No Turbos to blow up.......Oh yeah, the 5.0 emblems.......
Durability is not proven yet on the 5.0. In fact, hasn't the Ecoboost been around in the SHO and Lincoln as long as the 5.0 has been around in the Mustang?
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:01 PM
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306hp, 29mpg hwy. v6. right?

thats impressive and all, but did anyone consider the v6, non turbo 2011 mustang?

305hp, 32mpg hwy, v6

Thats if my numbers are right. im comparing the mustang to the mks not the truck lol. Could you imagine what that mustang will do with twin turbos. omg.

to contribute, i honestly would rather have a 5.0 or 5.4 for that matter then an eco boost. The only reason in my eyes is because yes, they are getting big numbers out of these small engine. Think about that though. they are pushing these little engines pretty hard. i think i would rather have a larger motor, a v8, and pull similar numbers. And then if i were to push the v8 like the v6 is (turbo, super, etc) i would pull some nasty numbers.


Like i said, maybe im way off here. Just seems like the bigger motors wouldn't age nearly as fast.

The eco boost thats in the mks has 355HP and 350lb of torque (at the crank). 25 mpg hwy
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by risupercrewman
Proven durabilty, two extra cyliners, awesome exhaust note, & No Turbos to blow up.......Oh yeah, the 5.0 emblems.......
I agree with risupercrewman. I would rather have a simpler engine with fewer components (no turbos) and a cooler running engine. There is too much power being generated on such a small block in my opinion.

Another reason for the 5.0 - I will be loading tunes on it when the warranty expires
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:55 PM
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Good info. It all comes down to what you do with the truck. From that you can base what engine will be your best bet. This is also like comparing the V8 diesel in the F150 running up against a F250-350. Totally different animals when towing something.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gregsf150stx
<scratching head still>

For all of us keeping tabs on the series, guess we'll see how it all comes down in the "teardown" video.

ACTUALLY, in essense, they already "semi" tore it down since they took it OUT of the original truck, and MOVED it to the modded BAJA truck. (which all the torture tests should have been in the ORIGINAL vehicle)

I have to wonder if Ford engineers did any "sneak peak" examinations of the engine when they switched it from one truck to another?

Still wondering the point in the BAJA video...
Mercury Marine did something similar to this back in the 60's I think to prove the durability of their new inline 6 "tower of power" motors. They advertised they ran them for like 50K miles on the water wide open. I cant remember the exact details but they were very powerful for their day. It was revealed only years and years later that they cheated and did it right under the eye of a third party observer. Sure made for good advertising back in the day but all was not quite what it appeared.
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 10:19 PM
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I wonder what all they had to do to get it tuned and set up for the race -- if they used a factory radiator, intercooler, ECU, etc. I can see some red and blue annodized fittings and braided hose on the engine in the very beginning of the video, which don't look "factory."
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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Awesome!! It sounds good too with the pipe setup they got
 
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Old Dec 22, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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In the video, I assumed they were just sarcastic by saying "we've got a problem". And the double mpg is compared to the other modded v8 they would otherwise be using in that class.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 04:55 AM
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In the video, I assumed they were just sarcastic by saying "we've got a problem". And the double mpg is compared to the other modded v8 they would otherwise be using in that class.
Exactly. I am glad someone here can understand this. The point of these tests is to prove that a V6 can do the work of a V8 and that it is durable and tough.

The guy in the video who said it got double the mileage that he would normally get isn't a Ford engineer. It says right in the video that he is from Foutz Motorsports. I understand some people are bummed that the EB is doing so well, but some of you guys are starting to sound like sore losers.

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Some background on the test and the fuel:
"The EcoBoost truck engine was a total success in terms of fuel economy as well. The race truck can hold 65 gallons of fuel, with the strategy to carry about 30 gallons of fuel during a given stint to save weight and to save time during fuel stops. The EcoBoost race truck ran the entire race on regular fuel, unlike other competitors who used more expensive specially blended fuels."
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-relea...112319769.html
 

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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Vigs07R
Awesome!! It sounds good too with the pipe setup they got
Like it too.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Vigs07R
Awesome!! It sounds good too with the pipe setup they got
Im willing to bet the sound is dubbed, cause ive NEVER heard a turbo V6 sound like that...
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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It's not doubed. There are other videos shown of the drivers doing testing and it makes the same sound.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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A few points:

The name of this video is: Ford F-150 EcoBoost Torture Test Episode 5: Baja. The series has always been about the engine, not the 2011 F-150. Ford has other videos about the 2011 F-150s in general. After being pulled off the engine assembly line, it went on a dyno, then in one truck, then another.


The Ecoboost 3.5L has been in production longer than the 5.0L in other vehicles, although this F-150 EB has some difference like the turbos.

The Baja truck raced in stock class against other vehicles with stock engines. The EB ran on 87 Octane during the the event. It used far less (half?) fuel of its V8 competitors in this race.

The 3.5L EB has about the same (slightly more) specific power (peak torque divided by displacement) as the 6.7L turbo diesel. It has less specific power than the Audi 2.0T, but a bit broader torque curve.
 
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