So if the 6.2L trucks DON'T have EPS (only reason I've heard is due to weight of the 6.2L) then are we to assume the front GAWR of the EPS trucks (including the max tow units) will not have the maximum highest available front GAWR as the EPS won't handle the weight?

Seems odd given 6.2L isn't that much heavier than a 3.5EB anyway? 180lbs?

Anyone have a detailed specs of truck configs for 2011? Not out yet?

 

What EPS ???

 

Electric power steering.

 

The EPAS trucks may not have the "maximum highest available front GAWR", but what are you going to do with an F150 that might exceed the truck's capabilities from the factory?

I don't know how it relates specifically to the front end, but there are trucks available with EPAS that can handle 11,300 pounds. I don't believe the 6.2 trucks exceed this number?

 

I was thinking the same thing

 

No.

 

i doubt it has anything to do with the weight of the engine. im sure it has more to do with the fact that hydraulic is cheaper than the electric and the 6.2's milage wasnt affected by using hydraulic.

 

Hey that just what Mike at PUTC said. Until I hear a more credible source....

 

I highly doubt it has anything to do with the capabilities of the EPS and everything to do with the cost to install the system. Adding it would require reworking part of the engine bay layout on the 6.2L trucks. This would cost money to design the layout, parts and installation. It would cost money to set up the assy line to install the parts and then it would cost money to stock spare parts for this unique configuration.

The F250 uses hydraulic steering as does the 2010 F150. This means the same engine layout from these two models would work in an F150 body. The only change might be in the hoses that run from the pump to the steering rack.

Ford has said from the beginning the 6.2L is very limited, somewhere I remember seen 2500-3500 units a year. Ford would never recover the cost of installing the new system. They also are doing a tremendous amount of work to save money without cutting corners. This is a prime candidate for this type of work.

Money vs. conspiracy theories about how the 3.5L is weak, which seems more likely?

 

Joe is partially correct, they didn't want to develop a new system for the limited volume to handle the higher front end weights. Their existing systems for the lighter engines were easily modified from some of the D-car platforms (Flex/MKT/Explorer).

 

Do you have a link?

I have seen him say EPS won’t be available for specialty models, like the Ford F-150 SVT Raptor and Harley-Davidson F-150, that are equipped with the heavier large displacement 6.2-liter V-8. But I have not seem him specifically say it is not available because of the weight of the 6.2 engine. Thanks.

 

Yeah, the 6.2 mileage is really hindered by one thing, the right foot! I'd love to have one, but what a gas hog. It would be a blast though.

 

I beleive it was a private message.

 

Here is where Mike made the statement about the heavier engine

"EPS won’t be available for specialty models, like the Ford F-150 SVT Raptor and Harley-Davidson F-150, that are equipped with the heavier large displacement 6.2-liter V-8. They’ll stick with conventional hydraulic steering."


http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/09...mments/page/2/

Since the Harley edition weighs no more than a "regular" F-150 then it must be engine weight

 

This is just a non-educated statement/guess. But maybe the reason the 6.2 will be hydraulic is because that is the way it is in the super duties. The 5.0 and 3.7 in the Mustang has EPS, and I assume the EB when used in other models and variants is also EPS or EPAS as Ford calls it. So there was not any additional engineering needed for the F150 and a hydraulic system was not even designed for those engines. Maybe they did not want to develop EPS just for the 6.2 in the F150, and keep everything "off the shelf" regarding engine assembly. Especially since the 6.2 is available in a limited number of trim levels for the F150.