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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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E85 Ethanol Question

Hey Guys,

I just noticed a new gas station opened up by my house that sells e85 ethanol for $0.30 cheaper than gas.

Do I have to run my current tank to empty before filling up? Also, is the gas Mpg the same?
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 12:40 PM
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No, you don't have to wait to empty your tank.

The MPG will drop about 30%.

Also check the maintanence guide as you will also need more frequent oil changes and you will need to run a tank of "regular" gas every so often. They also say it may be hard to start in the winter.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 12:41 PM
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You can run the 85 at anytime but yes the mpg will go down hence no savings.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 12:47 PM
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There usually is no cost benefit to E85 unless it's 50 cents cheaper than gas.
 
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Old Sep 25, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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Ya that's not cool the mpg goes down that much. I'll stick with normal gas lol
 
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 03:43 PM
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I've been tracking my mileage over the last 8k miles with mixed E85 and regular.....

So far, I've found that I've been getting about 70% efficiency out of E85, and that is roughly what the cost differential is.

If E85 is 70% or lower than Regular Unleaded, then I'd say go for it....otherwise, no.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 04:45 PM
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Read the following artice to understand why ethanol:

1) increases smog
2) decreases mpg
3) will destroy your car

http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyl...514_058678.htm
 
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 09:25 PM
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Living in the midwest- farmers all around, i am always asked why I dont run E85. I tell them the following.

I did run 3 tanks full ( thats a little less than 108 gallons, having a 36gal tank not running to E )
Here is what i found.

*MPG sinks.
*Cost savings is not that much, and is wiped out when you figure out what your MPG goes down too.
*power gains are not noticable

I believe ethanol is a good additive in fuel. but is not a very good 'fuel' alternative. Besides all of the water and power used to make it , seems pointless, even more so when the government subsidies run out. kind of like the soy diesel. i do beleive soy- diesel ( as an additive ) not as a straight fuel. makes sense , to help add back the lubricity of the product after most of the sulfur is taken out.

There are pros and cons to everything. i dont run it personally.
i drive a 09 plat 4x4 - stock everything
runnin 89oct with 10-15percent ethanol, i am getting 16.5 avg true pump fillup avg.

running E85, driving as 'nice' as i can, i at most got 14. most of the time avg on screen and fillup was 13 real world..

and i did not invest in any of tha plants here in the area. So for me ,, not worth it in the least.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Ya that's not cool the mpg goes down that much. I'll stick with normal gas lol
i think i would stay with the normal stuff i haven't to many posts from you lately hope truck is running ok for ya.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 04:37 AM
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I have a question for you guys. I am seeing a lot of pumps in my area that say this pump contains 10% ethanol. Is that the same as E85? Will it give you much worse mileage than a pump with just regular gas?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bluegreenf150
I have a question for you guys. I am seeing a lot of pumps in my area that say this pump contains 10% ethanol. Is that the same as E85? Will it give you much worse mileage than a pump with just regular gas?
No, it's a blend of 10% ethanol with 90% gasoline.

E85 is 85% ethanol and 15% unleaded gasoline.

It's pretty hard to find guaranteed 100% gasoline today. Most pumps state that the fuel could contain up to 10% ethanol.

I'm sure an % of ethanol is going to decrease MPG (compared to 100% gasoline), but I don't have any numbers.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2010 | 12:58 PM
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I ran hundreds of gallons of E85 and never had any issues on my Chevy. Drove 120,000 and probably half or more was with E85. Never an issue. I lost mileage like everyone else did, but around here I could find it for 40 to 50 cents less, and I figured I was breaking even. However, I did like the performance over 87 octane. E-85 is 105 octane rating, so your computer will bump the timing up some, and gives the engine more snap without pinging. The chevy felt more responsive when I ran consecutive tanks of E85. and the exhaust smelled sweet.

I don't think it is the answer or replacement for fossil fuel, because it takes to much energy to make it. If they can figure out a different way to make it, then maybe, but there is no way we can grow enough corn for that and to eat at the same time.
 
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