Being that I live at 7000ft, and have approx 17% less power than you sea level guys, I've been looking for a supercharger system for my 2010 Lariat for towing my boat, not many out there. However I just came across this, have any of you seen this??
The site says available in May and looks like a nice system.

http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive_...chargers/f150/

 

Check the supercharger section as this blower has been covered in there for a few threads.

It looks like it could be the most complete kit on the market.

Still plan to do an aftermarket tune and pulley swap.

 

Just did some searching and did find a few threads on this. I still think this is the kit for me when it becomes available.

 

I talked to the parts guy at my dealership about the FRPP supercharger in regards to warranty... He stated that as long as a Ford dealership installs the supercharger, factory warranty is not voided... some food for thought.

 

Whipple/FRPP is not going to make a kit for the 09-10

 

Parts guy said it was the same as the 08, just different programming.

 

I'd get that in writing.

 

as long as it's a 5.4 3v most everything will bolt up.

You might have a few differences here and there. For example in my 04 when I installed my saleen kit(not designed for 2004) I had to install an 06 up fuel pressure sensor, rewire in a different connector for the sensor. Had to drill two holes for my heat exchanger. Had to drill a hole to relocate my air temp sensor(for the outside air temp display), and had to space up my power steering reservoir. Also have a custom tune.

You will have different programing for sure for just about every year model truck. There might be a few different things here and there like I just mentioned. I know JDM has installed several Whipple and Saleen kits on 09-10 already. I beleive troyer has installed a few whipple kits as well.

 

Whipple guy said they are not develping the programing. And the kits would not be identical either, there are changes between 08-09'. It could be made to work without too much dificulty but it would not be a "bolt on".

I already tried buyig one and was told that they have no plans to produce them. I'm sure if they did plan on making some they would have told me.

I myself wouldn't mind putting an 08' kit on my truck if I knew I had someone who could tune it correctly but there doesn't seem to be many people out there doing any hard core tuning and I need my truck to not be stuck i the shop for two weeks while the R&D a tune.

And if I had to do a custom tune from the ground up I would bolt the GT500 intake and supercharger I have sitting on the shelf and piece the rest of the system together, it would cost me next to nothing and make 450/450 at the tires easy.

 

My worry is in the tune for the trans computer. It would be easy to not get that right and it take a while for the trans to eat itself. There could be some 09-10's cruising around slowly beating their transmissions up and we may not hear about failures for some time.

 

I just talked with JDM and they can tune for a blower on the 09-10'. They have not done a Whipple though, only the Saleen and they are making about 375ish at the tires. That's a bit low for a 3v. Either that 6 speed is sucking down some serious power, doesn't dyno well or that Saleen is not quite matched up to the 5.4L like it should be. Getting 450/450 out of a 3v 5.4L is easy with a lot of blowers. You can make that with a 4.6L and be daily driver safe with no other modifications (exhaust, etc). My buddy ran his Mustang 4.6L 3v with stock everything right down to the cats and mufflers at 556rwhp on pump gas with a Kenne Bell. I'm making 648rwhp with a 4.6L with ported heads, stock manifolds, cats and quiet exhaust on pump gas. There is nothing trick about the motor aside from a forged shortblock and the ported heads.

 

They kept it extra safe... did you talk to Jr? They have done several 5.4 3v's(maybe not 09-10). My Saleen blown truck is making some damn good power, as I know their own 5.4 3v truck with a Saleen is making 490rwhp. They just sent a raptor over across the pond making near 600rwhp if my memory serves me correctly using the Saleen blower. That Saleen blower has a lot of potential don't dismiss it. It is a 2.3L twinscrew. That 375 number might have just been the base saleen system, and not the additional JDM add on. That might have been their raptor kit as that is the figure they are putting out for it. The JDM add on is an 10lb pulley, roush CAI, some relocation brackets, and a very conservative tune. My truck is only set at 10degress right now.

It's also not as easy to get 450rwhp out of these trucks. Don't fool yourself, there are only a handful of stock long block trucks that have touched that number on this site. Me included. What you don't realize is our drivetrain suck up the power. In matter of fact, I think I'm the only stock long block 5.4 3v truck that has hit 450/450 on this site(Vortech on 12lbs). I haven't gone back to do a retune on my truck since my long tube install, but I imagine with a good tune after adding my 60lb injectors my Saleen will easily be 460+rwhp. All I would need then is a lower pulley and maybe a dual fuel pump setup and I'll be at that 490rwhp door as well.

Also note that 420-430rwhp is about the limit on these trucks without a ford GT pump and a Boost a pump. Best would be to add a dual/tripple fuel pump setup a few companys make for our trucks. Also the 39# injectors start maxing out at that point in most cases and you will need to upgrade to 60#.

Basically any blower on the market today, bolt on a 10-12lb pulley, a good tune, some fuel system upgrades and a free flowing exhaust and you will be at 420-450rwhp.

 

I’m glad they underquoted me then. I was a bit surprised by the 375 at the tires because I have seen those Saleen blowers make some serious steam (namely Sr’s Saleen launching about 20ft in front of my face). That must have been the ultra safe setup then.

I figured that the drivetrain would suck up some big numbers but there is a bit of an offset with the extra cubes over a 4.6L.

As far as supporting mods go no worries there. I have piles of fuel pumps, braided line, fuel rails, heat exchangers, pumps, overflows, etc from when my Mustang was only making 450hp. When I go with a blower it will be with twin Walbros and a return style fuel system and I think I have some 39lb or 42lb injectors stashed away also. I machine my own 10 rib belt drive systems which are separate from the stock serpentine setup so any pulley combo is no problem. I also have a Afco dual pass heat exchanger on the shelf which is 22x9x1.5 which would be perfect for that big hole in the front bumper.

I may just put my free GT500 intake and blower on it though opposed to buying a new kit. By just porting the elbow and playing with pulley size 450/450 wouldn’t be a problem at all. All I have to do is mill out some adapter plates for the intake ports and deal with the coolant crossover. It will probably boil down to how much time I have. If the truck can be down for a week or so I will probably go the GT500 way. If I have to get it done fast I’ll go with a kit of some sort.

Do the trucks have any issues staying cool when blown? The S197 Mustangs can run 500hp on the stock radiator all day long when it’s 95deg out and the A/C is kicking. Have you had overheating issues with your truck? I would much rather nip it in the bud and put a big rad in before I have any issues if there will be some.

Thanks for your help.

 

I wouldn't bother converting to return style. No need for it. Run dual ford GT pumps, as they are high LPH and high pressure pumps, compared to the normal 255lp that most all mustangs use. Use an extra fuel pump driver like the GT-500 or I think it's Z motorsports that has it's own driver that can power two. Might need to check the supercharger section for that.

The only supercharger system that uses a separate pulley system is the Roush. You will need to make brackets, buy a Roush/lightning setup, to do such. This is why the whipple kit is the most upgradeable as you can put on a lightning setup.

I'm assuming you do know that you will have to make adapter plates for that GT-500 setup as it's for a 4valve 5.4 and your truck is a 3v? That GT-500 blower if I'm nost mistaken is the same TVS blower that comes with the edelbrock kit.

I personally have no overheating issues, and I live in texas where it can get retarded hot. With that said, Saleen trucks came with larger aluminum radiators, and FRPP sells their own version. So apparently someone out there saw a need for them. I have electric fans, so maybe that's how I'm getting away with it? I have a Saleen radiator sitting in a closet right now I have yet to install.

 

Id go with a return system just because I already have just about everything to set it all up. And at the end of the day its safer set up that way because the pumps run at a constant RPM. It would be less out of pocket for me to go with a return system.

I think you misunderstood. I manufacture and sell a 10 rib belt drive system for the Mustangs. I would only need to make a few different brackets to get my system to work. I have my own mill, lathe, etc and my buddy who does all of my production work has everything up to a 5 axis CNC machine. The only thing a dedicated belt system will cost me is material and a little time.

Yup, I have done them before. It's easy. The stock GT500 blower has the Eaton guts in it. Not as efficient and makes more noise than the TVS unfortunately. I can't complain though, it was free.

Sounds good to me. I'll set everything up and if it ends up running too hot for some reason I'll go with a bigger rad then. I would much rather spend money on something a bit more fun.

Thanks again