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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SFCFX4
We had the first "real" snowfall I've ever seen in my lifetime here in the DFW area. 10" on the ground and it's not stopping. I have the 20" Pirelli's, very rarely did the TCS have to kick in to correct me. I'm a young man too, but I don't need to do donuts in a heavy a$$ truck. That's for damn sure.

If you're having to gun it to get from a stop onto a main road to avoid getting hit, then the other people are driving way too fast for that kind of weather. I just spent all night trying to help a guy in an old Silverado get out of a ditch. He slid off the road and planted the cab into a tree on the passenger side. He was all jacked up with huge mudders underneath. I heard him utter "but I had it in 4wd!" as we were trying to winch him out. Yes, the oncoming truck, a friend of his, was hugging the middle of the road and forced him off. But I know this guy had to be going too fast for him to lose traction, even in 4wd.

I may be a youngun and inexperienced to this kind of weather, but I know how to keep myself safe. I kept it in 4Hi and in 2-3 gear, 10mph or more below the posted speed limit on the road I was on, and got around as sure-footed as a mountain goat.
Nice pics. I agree with your thought about how fast the guy in the Silverado was going. I see far too many SUVs and trucks going 60 MPH on snow covered roads because they can. I've seen a few of them rolled over, too, because they forgot about the stopping part.

We've had about 40 inches of snow this past week from back to back storms, and my FX4 has gotten me around safely and efficiently. Today was the first time I saw my TC light come on, and that was when I was making a turn after stopping into an ice covered intersection in my neighborhood while I was in 2WD. I could feel a bit of wheel spinning, but the truck quickly recovered and stayed straight and within seconds the light was off and I was on my way. I couldn't be happier with the way this truck handles deep snow and icy road conditions.

Keep safe down there in the DFW area.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dline
Or even to get a run at an obstacle to build momentum...seems these features would limit you
What one earth are you doing in your truck. Needing speed to get a run at an obstacle! You should be slowing down when approaching an obstacle not speeding up
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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dline, you are wasting your time arguing with Barritia...I went through this a few days ago on another thread. If you spin your wheels, you can't drive, if you like to have fun, you are putting others in danger, and if you think you can drive without the safety systems, you are sorely mistaken...the truck is much smarter than you are, and without it you would surely die. If you think you can handle your vehicle, you need to contact ford and all of the high performance car manufacturers so they can take some pointers from you because you must be a professional driver, there is no way you can handle the truck without being a rally driver or something along those lines. And god forbid you use your truck for something that it wasn't designed for (like off roading), you should have just bought a dune buggy. Did I pretty much cover it Barritia? I think the "senior member" title under his name is very fitting...reminds me of the grumpy old man that I grew up next to that hated to see anybody else have fun.

Anyway, have you tried holding the traction control button for 5+ seconds? I made the mistake of just pressing the button until the light came on on the dash (a second or less), and I thought that was supposed to disable the TSC...that only works for speeds under 35, and only gets rid of the TSC, and does nothing with the RSC. After poking around on here a little, I realized that you needed to hold the button for at least 5 seconds to really disable the TSC and RSC... I did browse through the owners manual while I was waiting for the dealership to finish up all of the paperwork, but I didn't remember that part.
 

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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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Yeah thats pretty close. but I'm not an old man. I'm 30 years old to be exact. But it seems some people just either cant read the Manuel or are asking their truck to do stuff it's not designed for. I take my truck into the mountains to get to mountain biking trails and sometimes end up in mud hell and also take my truck in the snow and ice all the time but i have had zero issues with my truck. It's because it comes down to user error. People giving stupid replies like wheel spin= better grip, Pulling trailers in snow=not possible, Not reading manuals=truck ain't working like it should and i could go on.

I see more idiots driving around who think they are pro drivers than people who can drive. The snow comes and everyone thinks they are suddenly rally drivers and wanna go around solid ice corners side ways. Most end up in a ditch or upside down and i think it's funny when i hear truck drivers saying they are being held back by their trucks safety features. I have never heard such bull in my life. Just drive to suit conditions and you will have zero issues. If you wanna do burnouts and show of to ya mates then thats well and good but don't be blaming the truck because it wont let you go around a corner sideways at 60mph.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2010 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Langford
If you spin your wheels, you can't drive, if you like to have fun, you are putting others in danger, and if you think you can drive without the safety systems, you are sorely mistaken...the truck is much smarter than you are, and without it you would surely die.
No, the traction and stability control systems are not "smarter" than you are, but they ARE quicker and more capable. They can react before the sound of a spinning tire even reaches the cab and they can also act on wheels individually, in pairs or on opposite corners, something no human with a single brake pedal can do.

The system is very useful for towing on icy roads. I towed a two-horse trailer from Milwaukee to Seattle (2000 miles one way) and for about 200 miles there was a very thin layer of glaze ice that had recently condensed on the road surface at 29 degrees. This is the most slippery kind of ice and it was far more slippery than typical "black ice". There were numerous roll-over accidents all around me, ambulances and lots of flashing lights and sirens. And this was in January in South Dakota, a state where I presume people have set their cars up for icy conditions and know how to drive when it's icy. Traffic was very light and moving on the interstate at 40-45 mph and I have no idea why there were not any trucks sanding the highway. I had the horse trailer and there were sideways wind gusts so I was going 40 mph. The semi trucks were not passing me. I saw numerous cars that were tracking straight and true go into big slow slides for no apparent reason. This is how the roll-over accidents happened too. The horse trailer jack-knifed on me 4 times but the yaw sensor detected this each time and applied the inside rear brake which allowed me to regain control with only two back/forth oscillations each time. Without the stability control system I would not have been able to continue on or my truck and trailer would have been twisted metal. It would have been better if the trailer had electric brakes because then the stability control system could act on the trailer brakes but this trailer had surge brakes instead so I had to rely on the trucks ability to bring the trailer back into line.

The traction control system also worked superbly to maintain traction. It can react in a fraction of a second to cut power before it causes a slide. To someone not experienced with these systems or not very experienced driving on low traction surfaces it can feel like the traction control is "holding you back" when in actuality, the road is simply more slippery than you think it is.

I have tested it on ice with traction control enabled and disabled and I can launch considerably quicker with the traction control than I can by manually modulating the throttle for the best acceleration.






Thanks to the excellent stability control system, the horse trailer and truck arrived undamaged.
 

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Old Feb 13, 2010 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by cheef
Nice story SFCFX4! Slowing down is the best thing you can do in poor driving conditions. People who own 4x4's fail to realize that 4x4's are actually worse when trying to stop! 4x4 is great for hills, slippery boat ramps, getting the vehicle moving on slippery roads etc etc. I drive in snow 4-5 months of the year and I believe tire selection is more important than 4x4 for overall safety and I own a 4x4.

For the OP I think the manual explains how to disable TSC to a certain degree, I can't quote the page number right now though.
Thanks and X2 on the proper tire selection!

We got a whopping 14" of snow last night, which was truly amazing to see. Tons of wet, slushy snow. Since more people were out today, the roads had been traveled enough to knock down a lot of the snow, but there was still some compacted slush to encounter when turning from side streets. My TCS came on more today because I drove more in 2wd. I'm certain if I had a better set of tires, TCS wouldn't have been needed at all. But I'm glad it was there to keep me from fishtailing and spinning out. A light touch of the throttle can make all the difference in the world too.


Originally Posted by hemigod
Nice pics. I agree with your thought about how fast the guy in the Silverado was going. I see far too many SUVs and trucks going 60 MPH on snow covered roads because they can. I've seen a few of them rolled over, too, because they forgot about the stopping part.

We've had about 40 inches of snow this past week from back to back storms, and my FX4 has gotten me around safely and efficiently. Today was the first time I saw my TC light come on, and that was when I was making a turn after stopping into an ice covered intersection in my neighborhood while I was in 2WD. I could feel a bit of wheel spinning, but the truck quickly recovered and stayed straight and within seconds the light was off and I was on my way. I couldn't be happier with the way this truck handles deep snow and icy road conditions.

Keep safe down there in the DFW area.

Thank you! You keep safe as well.
 
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