I work at a small fastner company that produces small pins. We received a request for a PPAP (production part approval process) for a pin and the customer description was 2010 6.2L VCTC Solenoid Pin. The PPAP is for Ford. I would take a guess that they mean the BOSS 6.2L and the pin goes in the variable cam timing c?(controller). It was def for the 2010 model year. Sorry that I have no more info at this time, but I loved my job a little bit more and I was light up like a christmas tree today.

Josh

 

sweet man thanks for the info.

 

Yet another post that the '09 will be nothing more than a body change, with no engine to go with it. Who is going to spend 40k on a truck with a new body and the same tired old engine that can't even get out of it's own way?

Why bother changing the body style then, why not wait until '10? I know, I know, to give the appearance of competing and try to keep in the race... to get the uninformed to buy because it looks different and has a couple new do-dad's... but honestly... what horrible news.

 

cus this change will be in 2010

 

The 2008 Super duty did come out in like early spring last year (2007). Maybe they will do the same thing but instead call it the 2010. So it would only be like waiting another 6 months.

 

some of it is a matter of systems engineering.

Even if individual components work perfectly on their own (body, engine, trans), they may develop issues where the systems interact. If you limit the number of component changes per year, you limit the number of system interactions where problems can occour. Thus producing a more reliable vehicle.

With the number of engines/frames/drivetrain/bodys that the F150 comes in, it's hard to thuroughly test every combination.

Limiting changes helps produce a better product.

-ii

 

As mad as I am at Ford for being so slow in getting the market what it wants, I feel sorry for it. Its only inevitable that by the time it gets to market maybe 18 months from now, GM, Dodge, Nissan and Toyota will all have something more by then. Ford seems to benchmark the current model than assume they'll play nice and stay there for a while. Been this way for last 10/11 model years. '97 had 235, 5 more than at the time leader magnum 360, but by the time its out, GM had vortec w/255. Then in 02 we have 300HP which when develped would have leapfrogged then leader GM with 270. Bam! Hemi is announced same day and it has 345?. So based on this with Toyota current leader at 381 (I'm purposly not including Denali here @ 400ish) we should have 390 to 405 HP with 6.2L.

Now keep in mind if we do get a @ 400 hp 6.2L with a 6 speed, I won't have to care what competition offers, I'll be happy.

Or will I? If you had told me abck when I had a 98 F-150 with 235 that eventually I'd get a much improved 2004 with 300HP I would have sh@t bricks....

 

I'm not giving up on Ford quite yet... I still think the diesel is going to show up in 2009, even if it is a late debut. The first auto manufacturer to introduce a fuel-efficient half ton diesel is going to win big.

Ford is well aware of this and it is hard for me to believe that they would invest all of the money it takes to re-tool and release a new model if they were not making changes to the power train.

 

There will be more than just a "body change."

See here:

http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...st=20&start=20

 

Why not just bring back the 351 like in the old days? That motor was amazing.

 

Hell yeah, 351M, bad ***!

 

Exactly. We could bring back a tried an true motor that would be bigger than everyone else's... that seems to be what all half ton truck makers are trying to do.

5.8 > 5.7, 5.6, 5.3, etc.

My brother's '82 Bronco has the original 351 Windsor still running strong.

I never understood why they discontinued it in the first place.

 

5.8 < GM's 6.0, 6.2, Dodge's 6.1
Plus they are getting more power out of these modular engines then they ever did with the pushrod motors. Yes they COULD have made more power by now with pushrod technology just like GM but they took a different route and its working.

 

i heard the new cummins (6.1?) is pretty badass, anyone driven one yet?

 

I forgot chevy offered the 6.0 in the half-tons now. Is the 6.1 a HEMI? Didn't they used to make a 6.1 HEMI?

BTW, the new Cummins is a 6.7.