Can you bench test a COP?
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Can you bench test a COP?
I have a misfire and I think it may be a COP. I had a miss on the same cylinder years ago and I bought an aftermarket COP to try to fix it...then like a dummy I threw away my stocker after staring at it on my shelf forever. A buddy of mine who sold his truck gave me about 4-5 of his old COP's but I don't want to spend forever putting them on and waiting for a CEL...or switching mine around and checking for the code to follow. It would be ideal if I could just see if they were good/bad and throw one on to replace the aftermarket coil.
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You can, but it's expensive. Not to mention most shops don't have the equipment or knowledge.
Coils are PWM driven, and with that you need a oscilloscope to see the oscillations
With that being said, you still can't get the same experience as if you had it on the engine itself. Things such as heat, humidity, vibration, etc will all contribute, something that a bench test cannot.
Coils are considered consumable items. Same goes for injectors and plugs.
Coils are PWM driven, and with that you need a oscilloscope to see the oscillations
With that being said, you still can't get the same experience as if you had it on the engine itself. Things such as heat, humidity, vibration, etc will all contribute, something that a bench test cannot.
Coils are considered consumable items. Same goes for injectors and plugs.
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I'd say there are only 30-35k on the new plugs...changed at either 80 or 85k, can't remember. I changed 'em.
I have a scan tool, it's how I knew it's the cylinder with the new coil.
I think my plan will be to change the plug to a new one, and swap the coil with another cylinder at the same time.
I have a scan tool, it's how I knew it's the cylinder with the new coil.
I think my plan will be to change the plug to a new one, and swap the coil with another cylinder at the same time.
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To review; the engine control system does all the coil testing you need.
There are only three possible faults a coil can have.
1. An open primary or secondary.
2 a Short.
3. Shorted turns in the winding that may or may not be temperature sensitive.
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System detects # 1 with either a code 030x or a 035x. These are two different failure types
Shorted turns shows up in a different way as lower output voltage that causes misfires under certain conditions. This misfire does not normally set any codes but must be looked for with a Scanner observing misfire history in program. The memory location has no ability to set code.
This type fault is not considered a hard fault because it comes and goes per the condition but still has a record in memory.
The only test for this fault might be an Inductance test compared to a known good coil with consideration for tolerance but still would not pick out a temperature related issue.
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Bottom line is use a Scanner to look, or to trap the cylinder with freeze frame data when it occurs.
Good luck.
There are only three possible faults a coil can have.
1. An open primary or secondary.
2 a Short.
3. Shorted turns in the winding that may or may not be temperature sensitive.
.
System detects # 1 with either a code 030x or a 035x. These are two different failure types
Shorted turns shows up in a different way as lower output voltage that causes misfires under certain conditions. This misfire does not normally set any codes but must be looked for with a Scanner observing misfire history in program. The memory location has no ability to set code.
This type fault is not considered a hard fault because it comes and goes per the condition but still has a record in memory.
The only test for this fault might be an Inductance test compared to a known good coil with consideration for tolerance but still would not pick out a temperature related issue.
.
Bottom line is use a Scanner to look, or to trap the cylinder with freeze frame data when it occurs.
Good luck.
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