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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 12:58 PM
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Ok it's at the dealer, they are bore scoping all the cylinders now and will tell me what the deal is.
 

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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 02:58 PM
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Got the call. They got done bore scoping, and found lots of dirt/ debris and were able to blow it all out. Lots of porcelain came out as well. They are now filling the engine with some oil from the heads and hand cranking it to see if there are any binding/ resistance, fingers crossed I can make it out of this without a head pull.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkz28
Got the call. They got done bore scoping, and found lots of dirt/ debris and were able to blow it all out. Lots of porcelain came out as well. They are now filling the engine with some oil from the heads and hand cranking it to see if there are any binding/ resistance, fingers crossed I can make it out of this without a head pull.
Good luck! Sounds pretty promising.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 07:14 PM
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Good luck.....
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 08:34 PM
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Before Patrick did the plugs on my 07 i think i Ran 6 bottles of Techron between 2 tank of supreme fuel I was going to make damn sure those plugs were carbon free as they would get before he took em out..

He did it on a warm engine with a impact and all came out easy.
 
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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 11:08 PM
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Looking at that web site, it would appear that he specializes in the earlier 2 valve modular motors where blowing plugs out of the heads was a big problem. (Actually only a problem from 1997 - 2001.) The 2004 & up 3 valve issues with plugs not wanting to come out is a whole different issue.
2v plug issues were through Mid 2003 Model Year

3v plug issues were through Mid 2008 MY (engine production dates through 10-8-07)
 

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Old Jan 2, 2015 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KingRanchCoy
Before Patrick did the plugs on my 07 i think i Ran 6 bottles of Techron between 2 tank of supreme fuel I was going to make damn sure those plugs were carbon free as they would get before he took em out..

He did it on a warm engine with a impact and all came out easy.
https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8...s-55-56-a.html

haven't had a single one break after I went to impact method on all cylinders
 
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 12:15 PM
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https://www.f150online.com/forums/v8...s-55-56-a.html

haven't had a single one break after I went to impact method on all cylinders
Patman, looks like I will be using this method next time, can't argue with results!

On a side note, dealer called with the truck ready for pickup. They DID NOT have to remove the heads to get the debris out. Hefty bill though because they charged all the labor to bore scope every cylinder, clean out debris, and they charged me for removal/install of plugs and coils. All said I'm out around $800 for the job. Sucks is that is around what they quoted me for the plug change in the beginning, so if I paid them I would have saved the 12 hours of my labor, oh well.

Lesson learned.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 01:08 PM
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You gained a lot of experience. Next time it will be a breeze!
 
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Old Jan 5, 2015 | 04:02 PM
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All said I'm out around $800 for the job. Sucks is that is around what they quoted me for the plug change in the beginning, so if I paid them I would have saved the 12 hours of my labor, oh well.
Been there, done that -- I can't tell you how many times I've been standing in a garage going "oh-oh" and hoping I hadn't just peed all over my shoes.....

Over the years I have determined that it is actually cheaper to have the dealer do certain types of repairs, since they have the advantage of working on a specific vehicle day-in-and-day-out and learning all the tricks associated with some of these jobs.

I still do my own basic maintenance -- more because I enjoy it than to save money, plus, I feel I do a more conscientious job than most shops would on some of the preventative stuff. However, I have been burned too many times by trying to do the bigger jobs myself or farming them out to non-dealer shops. I have simply come to the conclusion that I save money in the long run by going the dealer route on certain repairs right from the start.

At my age, I am way beyond being too proud to admit that the dealer can do certain types of repairs quicker and more economically than I can do them in my DIY garage.....
 

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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 06:50 AM
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^^ Words of wisdom there, brother. Of course, growing up when I (we?) did, almost everything relating to auto-repairs was a lot simpler & easier.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 08:47 AM
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^^ Words of wisdom there, brother. Of course, growing up when I (we?) did, almost everything relating to auto-repairs was a lot simpler & easier.
like when a spark plug change was a one hour job and that was because you spent 20 minutes looking for the feeler gauge.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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Yeah -- look at the engine compartment of a '60's-era truck with an inline-six and you almost can't believe how easy everything was to work on and get to! It certainly makes you wax nostalgic for a simpler time and age......
 
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Old Jan 7, 2015 | 09:12 PM
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I take my truck to a guy who was the lead tech at the Ford dealer, he quit and opened his own shop. He also only charges $60 an hour.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2015 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Toyz
I would imagine a vacuum with a small hose attachment and a bore-scope to follow. If that doesnt work, the heads come off.
This worked for my neighbor when we did his truck. Put the piston at the bottom of the stroke so you have the ability to move the hose around inside the cylinder bore.
 
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