CAN'T MAKE UP MY MIND! Trying to decide on a wheel and tire combo. Need some help.
 

Hey Guys,

My current set of tires are getting kinda bare, so I am going to be needing some new rubber soon. Pretty much going to go with Nitto Terra Grapplers in 305 60 18. Im torn between Rockstars and Jesters in 18x9.

I have been searching all over the site to find info on what offset and BS to run, but am still totally confused. I know that the -18/-12 is for lifted trucks and will rub like crazy so that leaves +0 and +18 for the Rockstars or +12 for the Jesters.

I saw an F150 the recently that had the +0 rockstars and loved the stance, and that is the route I want to go as far as looks, but I am concerned about rubbing issues. He had 33x12.50s tho so he had rubbing issues for sure. With the 305s on an 18x9 w/ +0 offset, will I have rubbing issues? If yes, where? And how much will I have to trim to fix it? Will there be any rub on the control arms, tie rods, etc...

Anyone have this tire size and wheel size/offset combo and have picks? How bout pics of the same but +18 or +12?

Truck Details:

2007 F150 Supercrew FX4

Will I need to level to not rub? If I can get away with it for now I may go Bilstein lift shocks, but if I have to level it to run this setup then I as going to go with at least a 2.5 spacer up front, but I really want to get this http://roughcountry.com/ford_f150_leveling.php w/ the rear kit so the truck still keeps a slight forward rake (I haul stuff for work occasionally and I don't want the rear riding super low)

Oh, this is the setup I am almost sold on, just depends on how the +0 will work out.

I recently got XD Monsters 18in with -12 offset and for tires terra grapplers 295 70 18

I couldn't turn because of the rubbing, the front fender is easy to trim: just cut, take 5 seconds
now the back that's where there is metal behind the plastic cover, I had to go to a body shop and it took 3 hours and a good $300, they had to cut and weld so the plastic cover can be attached again, it's a long job

my tires with the -12 offset are sticking out perfectly my bushwhacker fender flares

things I have noticed:
-going from the stock tires with 35 PSI vs 80 PSI makes the ride rougher, you feel the bumps on the road, NOT very comfortable if you do a lot of highway and the roads are bumpy
-you definitely are slower when accelerating, my truck is supercharged and it is noticeable, I still have the stock wheels with tires and I'll go to an auto wrecker to get cheap tires to swap the wheels/tires and burn them out whenever I feel like
-noise wise, no difference with stock tires
-the truck is higher now also

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If you aren't towing anything really heavy, you don't need to run your LT's @ 80psi. I run mine at 50psi for normal daily driving and it's still a bit stiff (as is expected). Also, the slower acceleration (and strain on tranny) is why we recommend getting gears to match the larger tires.

The 305 60 18 Terra Grapplers are not listed as LT tires. Not really concerned about the ride, its a truck not a Cadillac lol. Not concerned about losing acceleration either, the 305s are only slightly taller than my current 275s. Might lose a little, but that will be due to the weight of the tires/wheels I think.

I think I am sure I will go with 18x9 Rockstars, either in +0 mm (if the rubbing thing isn't an issue) or +18mm if it is. I was under the impression that the +18mm is closer to stock and rubbing is not much of an issue. The 305s are a 32.44" tall tire, and the stock 275s are a 32.1" tall tire, so really I think the width combined with offset is what will matter as far as rubbing is concerned. Those 295s are like a 34.2" tall tire, so I am not surprised they are rubbing that much with that offset.

I really need input from those with 305 60 18s on 18x9s with either +0mm offset or +18mm offset. I don't mind some plastic trimming, but I don't want to do any bodywork to get them to fit.

Pics of 18x9s in +0 or +18 offset with 305 60 18s on stock or leveled 4x4 trucks would be much appreciated

I also wanted to go 325 or 305, the reason I went with the 295 75 is with the online research and calling manufacturers I did, they told me after 295 the vehicle stability is affected on hwy (vibrations), and the vehicle is not as tall as with the 295 70

you can purchase the 305/55/20 nitto terragrappler in xl (extra load) or load range e (10 ply)

The 295 70 18 has an overall diameter of 34.3" and the 305 60 18 has an overall diameter of 32.4" so I don't know how the 295 70 18 could possibly be shorter. The 305 60 18 vs the 295 70 18, the 305 would result in the truck being shorter. Stability wise, I would assume the 305, with less side wall than the 295, would flex less and have better handling/stability. Plus, I really don't want to go over 33" tires, so those 295s @ 34+ are not something I would consider. Maybe the 285 65 18 but they are nearly the same width as my current tires. I want to go wider, but not really much taller.

That may be, but I don't want 20s, and I don't really want E range tires, I wont need them. The 305 60 18s are not XL either according to Nittos site, but the tire capacity is the same as my current P275 65 18s, so I am fine with standard load. Also, the 305 55 20 XL has the same load capacity as the 305 60 18 non XL I want.

Thanks for the input guys, but like I said what I really want to know about is offset and backspacing with the setup I want to run, and how much rub there is either way, and what I will have to do to correct the rub.

level it and i can tell you with 100% certainty that you will never rub. i ran 18x9 +18 monsters with 275/70/18 mts and never rubbed once. i have a 2 inch level

edit: ok you may rub if you do serious off roading lol but daily driving you will never rub

edit again: even if you went with the -12 option that is still a 1 inch narrower wheel than i am currently running and i only rub in reverse while turning tight. a lot of the members on here run leveling kits, which is why you havent gotten a lot of responses. if your truck was leveled we could probably tell you where you would rub in every town across the country lol. but, all that being said, are you buying from a tire shop like schwabs? they will mount a rim and tire on for you to see if it rubs

No, I was thinking about getting them from Mr. Wheel Deal, they gave me the best price I have found. I really like the +0 because I like that look where it sticks out but the -12 is too much. Id go +18 if I had too, but not quite the stance I am looking for.

I am interested in hearing from the guys that are leveled since I will be leveling it with at least 2.5 spacers, and possibly and extra inch out back.

I run an Xd wheel 18x9 with 5 back spacing and 0 offset with nitto trail grappler tires 285 65 18 equals 33x11.50 my truck is leveled still has some space between the wheel wells and doesn't rub when turning full lock, comes close though. I probably couldn't run 12.50 wide tire without rubbing. Hope this helps out some.

That concerns me with the 305 60 18s then. Im wondering if the issue si the tire width or if it is the +0 offset? Anyone have input on this? How about pictures of 305 60 18s on 18x9s with +18mm offset?

Or, how about with a 295 65 18, little taller, but also a little more narrow. Would that work on the +0? or still need the +18?

How far will and 18x9 with +18mm offset stick out compared to the stock FX4 wheels? If it sticks out enough, that may be the way to go, seems like the +18 has less rubbing issues.

Can anyone explain why and where the tires rub when you decrease offset? I kind of get it, but my mind still wants to think moving the wheel further out should create more clearance for wider / taller tires.

Found a setup I REALLY like.

http://www.f150forum.com/f38/show-of...5610/index212/ Pics in the 1st post of the white 2010. He is running an 18x9 +0 with 295 65 18s and from what I read up on this combo they don't rub (come close though). Kinda Leaning this way now... I know its a newer body style, but aren't they pretty much the same as far as what wheel/tire combos will or will not work?

Actually really like those wheels too, but I think they are pretty pricey compared to what I am looking at. Seems like Backspacing on the 18x9 Rockstars and Novakanes is 5" with +0 offset. I am thinking that with the 295 65 18s I should be good, and not rub, especially once I do the 2.5" spacer in front and the +1" block in rear. I guess my other question is, what other wheels are out there that are similar (flat black with little to know chrome) that come in 18x9 +0 OS 5" BS? Any suggestions? I really like the Rockstars, but I kinda feel like they are getting kind of played... Which sucks cuz it is like my favorite wheel ever...

ANyway, I'm now torn between 18x9 Rockstars with +0mm offset and 5" BS OR 18x9 Addicts with +18mm offset and 58.71" BS. I DO NOT want to rub, but I don't mind trimming plastic. I am torn between 305 60 18 Terra Grapplers and 295 65 18 Duratracs. Waiting to see price difference b/t the 2 tire choices. Wheels are same price. Love the stance of the +0 offset. Would like to see pics of +18mm addicts though with these tire sizes, or close to them. I don't want to go much under or over a 33" tire (less than an inch).

Sorry for the back and forth on this, but posting this helps me make decisions, lol

the issue is with the offset and the tire width, depending. When you have stock wheels with super high offsets and out a 12.5 inch wide tire on there you will rub on the a arm. when you have super wide and low offset wheels you will rub on the lower bumper trim. your best bet is to do a mild offset, that will allow you to have a 12.5 inch wide tire on there with no rubbing. like i said earlier though, youre not getting many responses in here from guys who dont have leveling kits because they just arent out there. the safest bet for you is a +18 offset with a 295 or 305 tire. if you approach a zero offset you will most likely have to trim the the lower bumper plastic piece. but if you are ok with that then go that route, it will be more aggressive looking

I would like input from the leveled guys since I plan on leveling almost right away, if not when I do the tires/wheels.

I don't mind trimming plastic, I just don't want to get into body work and rubbing on control arms and stuff. I love the +0 look, so I am thinking about going that route. Actually I think you just answered my questions in your post. Thanks for the help.

Anyone have recommendations on 18x9 +0 flat black wheels other than Rockstars that are not much more money than the Rockstars?

I've got to chime in and advise you to NOT purchase Rockstars. I used to have them on my truck, then they started popping up on every car, truck, and suv around...

But the main reason I would advise getting them: The center caps. I had wheels become stripped and lost 2 center caps when I was driving, and another cap had also become cracked. I even tried to trim down the caps and bolts after the first time to hold them to the wheel more (and get rid of that awful gap). I finally called KMC and had them replace the wheels. I don't believe a set of wheels should become that defected in under 2 and a half/3 years.

I had them replaced with my current XD Addicts. Similar price, and looks much better.