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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:22 PM
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I believe its a **** pour design but I love my truck and we'll just have to put up with the issue. I will more than likely change them out again before 100,00 miles and do the job myself, again!
Best of luck...
What gets me is that this is FORD's ****-poor design, and because of that, FORD dealerships get to commit highway robbery to change the damned things. As far as I'm concerned, Ford ought to be paying for, or heavily subsidizing, plug changes. It's their fault.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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What gets me is that this is FORD's ****-poor design, and because of that, FORD dealerships get to commit highway robbery to change the damned things. As far as I'm concerned, Ford ought to be paying for, or heavily subsidizing, plug changes. It's their fault.
Been discussed and argued many times. The design came from the plug supplier engineers. Ford's mistake was accepting it without a long test period.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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well i finished with 6 of 8 broken.. at least i got 2 and 4 out.. now im deciding between buying the tool or getting a guy to remove them for $50 a plug
 
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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The tool is only about 70 bucks.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2010 | 08:44 PM
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The tool is only about 70 bucks.
yeah i know im going to order it
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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well I got the lisle tool in the mail finally today when i got home from school and i went to work, gotta say that tool is great, had all 6 of them out in 1.5 hours

heres all my plugs and pieces


one problem, the ground strap broke in 2 places so i'll have to vacuum out the missing piece of it


and the tool


soem advice on using the tool, with the pusher tool crank the nut that pushes the tip all the way down,so you know youve gone far enough and dont waste time checking like i did the first time lol.. and also i know most socket sets dont come with a 24mm socket but you need it for the puller nut, so make sure you got it..
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:07 PM
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Congrats!! Not on the plug removal.....

But on being prepared and and not bitching and complaining. Glad to see you are handling it. Good Job!!!
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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24mm socket but you need it for the puller nut, so make sure you got it..
deep socket or a regular one
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 09:48 PM
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Plugs are good to 100,000 miles is what Ford says.....My truck developed a serious misfire at around 45,000 miles and I had to have them changed. One plug had stuff caked on the end of it. I have a pic of all 8 after removal, none broke. Took it to the dealership because I don't have the time to play with it and to quote someone from an earlier post "it's easier to explain to my wife how the dealership broke a plug than it is to explain how I broke it." My $.02
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by gilsnuxs
deep socket or a regular one
i'd go with a deep but you could probably get away with a shallow one
 
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Old Apr 6, 2010 | 10:17 PM
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Plugs are good to 100,000 miles is what Ford says.....My truck developed a serious misfire at around 45,000 miles and I had to have them changed. One plug had stuff caked on the end of it. I have a pic of all 8 after removal, none broke. Took it to the dealership because I don't have the time to play with it and to quote someone from an earlier post "it's easier to explain to my wife how the dealership broke a plug than it is to explain how I broke it." My $.02
so basically you got lucky.. i dont have a wife so w.e my parents dont care its my truck and i bought the tool myself.. honestly the ford dealer here wanted $900 to do my plugs so i didnt really have to think to much considering im stuck in high school again
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 05:17 AM
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didnt really have to think to much considering im stuck in high school again!
Didn't quite know what to think about that! 2nd time around?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 07:07 AM
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Didn't quite know what to think about that! 2nd time around?
lol no.. im just saying that because i was in cooperative education for all of last year working as a framer and thats how i got the money to buy my truck so now im just finishing up my grade 12 math and english credits then i can graduate
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 08:23 AM
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one problem, the ground strap broke in 2 places so i'll have to vacuum out the missing piece of it
Now that would scare me. I would never crank my truck again until I was holding that missing piece in my hand, and it fit perfectly in that broken plug.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2010 | 03:29 PM
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well i finished up this morning, spent abotu 2 hours vacuuming out the cylinders im pretty sure i got everything.. put in the new plugs torqued them down to 25 ft lbs like it says in the tsb and put everything that i had taken off the truck back on.. ran it for 15 minutes sounded good, idled a little smoother then i noticed i forgot to plug the maf wire back into the maf so did that, funny thing i would have expected it to run rough without the maf.. job completed im going to take it for a test drive soon..

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Now that would scare me. I would never crank my truck again until I was holding that missing piece in my hand, and it fit perfectly in that broken plug.
yeah it scared me to but i wasnt sure if it had broken off when i pulled it out and simply didnt notice as it fell off but i felt confident because i spent the time vacuuming. anyway after 15 minutes it waas still running so i guess i got lucky.
 
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