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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 08:32 PM
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Well im trying to get my truck alligned and they cant crank the camber anymore to stop the insides of my tires from wearing. The guy said that new crossmembers would help as it would kinda pull the front of the truck together and get me back into alignment. I have a procomp stage one lift right now. Where would I get a new front crossmember and what kind should I get?



This is what he was saying I need a new one of.


This is an old picture and I am shocked how clean this was when I first got the truck, lol. Its all covered in mud now. lol.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 08:36 PM
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I don't know if it is the picture, but it looks rather crooked...
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Yeah im at an angle. look at the license plate bracket above. Lol. The little washer looking things on both sides of the crossmember with the bolts going through them are cranked to the max and wont go any farther to get the truck aligned. He said they were starting to bend if he cranked anymore so the truck wont get into alignment.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 08:53 PM
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Time to find a different alignment shop.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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Time to find a different alignment shop.
I have had numerous people tell me that they can not crank those little washer/bolt things anymore. So what do I do in this situation...
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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I installed a Pro-Comp lift on a 06 F150 at work and couldnt get the camber in spec. Talked to procomp and it turned out one of the steering knuckles that came with the kit was "faulty". The upper ball joint hole was drilled too close to the outside of one steering knuckle causing excessive negative camber. Replaced the one knuckle and was good to go. Thats Pro-Comp quality for ya

This could be your problem as well im sure there is a few "faulty" parts out there if the parts are all made on a jig. They sure seemed to know the problem when we spoke to them so im sure they are aware of it.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Paralyzer
I installed a Pro-Comp lift on a 06 F150 at work and couldnt get the camber in spec. Talked to procomp and it turned out one of the steering knuckles that came with the kit was "faulty". The upper ball joint hole was drilled too close to the outside of one steering knuckle causing excessive negative camber. Replaced the one knuckle and was good to go. Thats Pro-Comp quality for ya

This could be your problem as well im sure there is a few "faulty" parts out there if the parts are all made on a jig. They sure seemed to know the problem when we spoke to them so im sure they are aware of it.
I'd say what Paralyzer is saying with gold.

I've never really seen much of a problem with the cross members, as IIRC you can pretty much jack the truck up with that thing. So the chances of it being messed up is slim to none, unless you hit something with it, but from the picture, it looks like it is new.

Check the aftermarket stuff first before what originally came with the truck.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:38 PM
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The alignment guy is a moron. The crossmember would have to be bent to cause any such problem. You need a kit made for adjusting camber further than the factory hardware will let you.

 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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The alignment guy is a moron. The crossmember would have to be bent to cause any such problem. You need a kit made for adjusting camber further than the factory hardware will let you.

Camber kits do not allow you to adjust camber further, only easier to adjust. The pic shows he already has "camber kits" installed which come as part of the Pro-comp lift. The slot for the lower controll arm bolts is only so big once its moved all the way to the inside thats all your going to get...
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Paralyzer
Camber kits do not allow you to adjust camber further, only easier to adjust. The pic shows he already has "camber kits" installed which come as part of the Pro-comp lift. The slot for the lower controll arm bolts is only so big once its moved all the way to the inside thats all your going to get...
Okay so what do I need to do, or who do I need to call. I want to do what ever it takes as fast as possible to prevent unncessary ware on my tires.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:13 PM
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Okay so what do I need to do, or who do I need to call. I want to do what ever it takes as fast as possible to prevent unncessary ware on my tires.
is the camber problem on one side or both? did your alighnment guy give you a printoff of the final angles? A crossmember will never cause an issue like this unless it is damaged. Metal may "relax" over time but not enough to make it un-alighnable. Look at where the upper ball joint goes into the top of the steering nuckle and compare side to side. See if the location of the hole is the same. A very small difference can make a big change in Camber.

looking at your picture it seems the passenger side it the side maxed out. I suspect the problem is on that side. Which is also the same side I had troubles on with the truck i was talking about.
 

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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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is the camber problem on one side or both? did your alighnment guy give you a printoff of the final angles? A crossmember will never cause an issue like this unless it is damaged. Metal may "relax" over time but not enough to make it un-alighnable. Look at where the upper ball joint goes into the top of the steering nuckle and compare side to side. See if the location of the hole is the same. A very small difference can make a big change in Camber.

looking at your picture it seems the passenger side it the side maxed out. I suspect the problem is on that side.
Both sides are wearing on the insides of the tires. They are wearing the same amount on both sides.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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looking at your picture it seems the passenger side it the side maxed out. I suspect the problem is on that side. Which is also the same side I had troubles on with the truck i was talking about.
That picture is from a LONG time ago, lol. Like a year and a half ago.



And the angle for the camber is -1.2 on the driver side, and -1.1 on the passenger side.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by W.L.B
That picture is from a LONG time ago, lol. Like a year and a half ago.



And the angle for the camber is -1.2 on the driver side, and -1.1 on the passenger side.
Do you have the caster specs as well? im just wondering if he put too much caster in which could not allow the camber adjustment to be in spec.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2009 | 11:35 PM
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Do you have the caster specs as well? im just wondering if he put too much caster in which could not allow the camber adjustment to be in spec.
That sheet is in my truck. I just rememberd the camber. It was in the green I know that. But this isnt the first guy that told me that they were maxed out. He said the little washer things were actually starting to bend when he was tightening them.
 
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