2004 - 2008 F-150
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Real Truck

My local dealership is full of @%(*

Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:29 PM
  #16  
Tbird69's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 3,115
Likes: 0
From: Winnipeg, Manitoba
Originally Posted by SmokeyBear
I'm not so sure of that, with the economy the way it is, it's a safe bet that they are doing whatever they can to do as much work as possible. Besides, they could get em all out easily and tell me they broke 7 of them and charge me for 12 hours labor. A hammer and a bench could provide the proof they need to charge me the extra costs.
Or the pieces from a different engine...........
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:36 PM
  #17  
OgRedd's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 1,115
Likes: 1
From: TN
Originally Posted by Stealth
Sounds like the dealer didn't want to do the job.
x2! I'd call Ford's customer service and report it. That's ridiculous. They just didn't want to do it. - Og
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:39 PM
  #18  
Stealth's Avatar
Senior Member
Truck of the Month
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 17,118
Likes: 7
From: Burleson, Texas
Originally Posted by SmokeyBear
I'm not so sure of that, with the economy the way it is, it's a safe bet that they are doing whatever they can to do as much work as possible. Besides, they could get em all out easily and tell me they broke 7 of them and charge me for 12 hours labor. A hammer and a bench could provide the proof they need to charge me the extra costs.
A conspiracy theorist! (Sorry, I had to laugh. )

I've never been to a dealership who has done that, nor have I ever heard of that happening before. I've never owned a Dodge though.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 12:46 PM
  #19  
SmokeyBear's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 360
Likes: 1
From: Ky
Originally Posted by Stealth
A conspiracy theorist! (Sorry, I had to laugh. )

I've never been to a dealership who has done that, nor have I ever heard of that happening before. I've never owned a Dodge though.
If you knew this dealership you'd know I wasn't even joking. You walk onto their lot and shake a salesperson's hand and you want to go take a shower immediately. Slimy, smarmy bastards they are!
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:02 PM
  #20  
ccoll5's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 154
Likes: 0
From: Lexington, KY
I agree 100%. Go to the dealership and you would understand. They aren't the brightest string of bulbs on the tree Have you ever tried Mountain Ford in Hazard?
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:15 PM
  #21  
Cliff05FX4's Avatar
Member
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
From: Houston, Texas
I dont know, but i would think that if they broke it THEY would be fixing that free of charge.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:20 PM
  #22  
Quintin's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor
20 Year Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,509
Likes: 6
From: Georgia on my mind...
The removal pins for pulling the stuck porcelain out are one time use only, and costs the dealer $83 for a set of eight. The porcelain removal tool kit itself costs about $440. The procedure, using their tools, if done properly takes about an hour per plug.

As much as the pins and the tool itself cost, I'd be damned if I use it for free.

All the bitching some of you people do, why not just fix it yourselves and quit crying about how much the dealership charges. If you can't/won't do it yourself, you're gonna have to pay someone else who can do it, and you're subject to their prices (which as you've seen vary wildly). It's a harsh reality, and I know you want it done for dirt f'kin' cheap, if not free, but sorry, thus is life.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:20 PM
  #23  
4.6 Punisher's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: Aug 2008
Posts: 4,778
Likes: 10
From: Douglasville GA
I'd rather change them in my driveway then pay that kind of money for a stealership to do it.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:20 PM
  #24  
Patman's Avatar
Global Moderator &
Senior Member
20 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 21,337
Likes: 159
From: DFW
Originally Posted by SmokeyBear
MY gripe is telling me the tool is disposable and that I'd pay for each one they had to use.
just FYI part of the tool is disposable. Excuse the lack of technical terms, but basically you JB weld a nail to the top of the plug, then use a puller on the nail to get the half of the plug out.

of course its not JB weld, its some Ford part number
and its not a nail, its a Rotunda tool part number
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:29 PM
  #25  
wolverine08's Avatar
Senior Member
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 653
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by cheesepuff1
my local dealer wanted 750 to change radiator in wifes 06 explorer!!! got it done for 300 at local shop!!! thats why they are called stealership.
I had to have my '06 Explorer's radiator changed as well. Luckily a warranty item, and zero expense. Another reason I'm in favor of ESP warranties, although this was still covered under original. Makes you wonder how many other radiators have been swapped out.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:34 PM
  #26  
Quintin's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor
20 Year Member
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 6,509
Likes: 6
From: Georgia on my mind...
Originally Posted by Cliff05FX4
I dont know, but i would think that if they broke it THEY would be fixing that free of charge.
You would think wrong.

If I advised you beforehand that there's a possibility that I may break some spark plugs in the process of a tune up, and you said to go ahead with that tune up, I'm supposed to eat any broken plugs that might happen that I told you before I ever got started?

It'd be one thing if they just dove in there without warning you first, but if they warned you before hand, and you went ahead and approved the work, they're supposed to eat it if they run into trouble?

Are you high?
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:35 PM
  #27  
SmokeyBear's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 360
Likes: 1
From: Ky
They said specifically that "the tool we use is a one time use tool. It's disposable." That's the part that really chaps my ****. It's equivalent to a contractor telling you he has to use a new hammer on each nail he builds your house with.


The removal pins for pulling the stuck porcelain out are one time use only, and costs the dealer $83 for a set of eight. The porcelain removal tool kit itself costs about $440. The procedure, using their tools, if done properly takes about an hour per plug.

As much as the pins and the tool itself cost, I'd be damned if I use it for free.

All the bitching some of you people do, why not just fix it yourselves and quit crying about how much the dealership charges. If you can't/won't do it yourself, you're gonna have to pay someone else who can do it, and you're subject to their prices (which as you've seen vary wildly). It's a harsh reality, and I know you want it done for dirt f'kin' cheap, if not free, but sorry, thus is life.
Hey, I have no problem paying a fair price for a qualified mechanic to do a difficult job. I do however have a problem with a shiester trying to sell me a ghost in a jar. I've been working on cars and trucks since I was 9 years old. I've done everything from an oil change to a complete and total rebuild of a jeep including engine and auto tranny rebuild. I know what I'm doing under the hood. The reasons why I don't attempt this myself is I've moved into a rental house and I don't have access to a garage with proper tools, a difficult job is made harder without proper tools and I thoroughly believe that the asinine plug design on these trucks is 100% a Ford $(*#-up and they should be the ones who have to deal with it. A $1000 dollar spark plug change is not acceptable.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:40 PM
  #28  
SmokeyBear's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 360
Likes: 1
From: Ky
Originally Posted by ccoll5
I agree 100%. Go to the dealership and you would understand. They aren't the brightest string of bulbs on the tree Have you ever tried Mountain Ford in Hazard?
No. 99.999% of work on my vehicles are done by me. But this plug change thing is idiotic. Layne brothers will get my business if they give me the same quote in writing as I got over the phone.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:46 PM
  #29  
Patman's Avatar
Global Moderator &
Senior Member
20 Year Member
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 21,337
Likes: 159
From: DFW
Originally Posted by SmokeyBear
That's the part that really chaps my ****. It's equivalent to a contractor telling you he has to use a new hammer on each nail he builds your house with.
No its like a contractor telling you ahead of time that if he needs to build a deck on the back of your house, that you will need to buy a box of nails because they are one time use.
 
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2009 | 01:59 PM
  #30  
SmokeyBear's Avatar
Thread Starter
|
Senior Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 360
Likes: 1
From: Ky
Originally Posted by Patman03SprCrw
No its like a contractor telling you ahead of time that if he needs to build a deck on the back of your house, that you will need to buy a box of nails because they are one time use.
uhm, no it's not, he said the TOOL was one time use and I would have to pay for a new TOOL for each one of the plugs he broke.
 
Reply

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:50 AM.