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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:34 PM
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Leveled + rear lift????

hello, i put in a 2.5 leveling kit in my 05 screw. and love the way it sits when empty, but now for the last 4 weeks or so my quad has regularly been in the box and i cant stand the bulldog look (sagged rear end) so here's my question should i get a block, add a leaf, or air lift 2000k kit. I'll probably be hauling my quad most week ends this summer (found a nice spot to ride with friends outta town) i dont want to loose my ride when empty and i like the idea of the extra weight capacity so i dont think a block is right for me.

so what do you recommend (brands etc)and why, thanks alot Tom.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:46 PM
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being from WI, i have seen the airbag systems fail/freeze up at the worst times. i am old fashioned and the add-a-leaf/block will never let ya down.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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If you like your ride Go with the block, The extra 1.5 inches on the block won't hurt anything but the add-a-leaf combined with the front LK will make for a stiffer ride.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 08:57 PM
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AutoSprings rear 1.5" AAL

they make the best reguarded leveling kit for our trucks...and they are a shop in Idaho with a solid reputation and sales. I have their 2.5" up front and the 3" block out back. Nothing but good happiness on my part

you can get one on eBay for about $150 shipped.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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I think there was someone selling their stock 2" blocks in the Classifieds.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2009 | 11:02 PM
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I would go with the block if you want to keep your ride the way it is, the add a leaf will stiffen it up a little but offer more towing capacity. Autospring is a good brand for either of these.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 12:14 AM
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I'm in the same boat, although I have the 2" level. It actually sits about 1/2" lower in the back now. I saw where they sell 1/4" shims (superlift I think), so I may put a couple of those in to level it, then get the hellwig load pro.

http://www.hellwigproducts.com/produ...oad_pro_series

It mounts on top of the spring pack and doens't affect the ride. It only kicks in once you apply a load. The other option I am considering a 1" block and the 1.5" AAL. I've heard from some that think the AAL inproves the ride and some that don't...more of a personal preference I guess.

Either way, I'm not sure there is a way to ensure a level ride under a load, if you don't have some rake unloaded, unless you go with air bags. And I'm just not gonna spend that much.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 12:33 AM
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I have a 2 inch AS spacer up front and 2 inch fabtech blocks in the rear. I love the stance now with my new Toyos. Check out my gallery.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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i have the 2.5 AS up front and the AS 3" block in rear, which replaced the stock 2" . so giving it 1" of lift in rear... i LOVE it..!! to me it looks perfect...

theres 100's of f150 around my neighborhood leveled out... but mine is unique because i have the rear lift added
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 08:58 AM
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I have AS 2.5"m kit up front and Firestone Ride-Rite airbags in the rear. I usually run 15-20psi, which stiffens the ride up just a bit, but not nearly as much as a AAL, yet also gives me 3/4-1" of rake. Also with my Yamaha Kodiak in the bed (and the same 15-20psi in the bags) the truck still has alittle bit of rake.

Before I got my bags I was thinking about getting blocks for the rearend, but I went with the bags for a couple reasons. 1. I bought them from a member here for only $20 more than what the block kit costs. 2. Every once in a while I end up hauling sometimes 3000+lbs in the bed so the bags work GREAT for those heavy loads.
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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Thanks for all the reply's i still have no clue which way to go, if i go with the aal from autosprings it's about 220 Canadian. if i go with procomp or skyjacker aal from my local supplier it's 250ish and a airlift kit is 300.

PHS79 the aitllift actually gave you some lift when empty? i have approximately same sized quad (honda foreman 500 approx 650lbs)

Atom when do they mess up? just when your trying to fill up or air down? So if i go with the bags will i have issues in winter when it dips down to -40c

Thanks for all the reply's again, and any and all thoughts are welcome

here's a pic of the stance:
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 11:15 AM
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one time we were headed to go sledding the damn compressor froze up. it was wet out and i think something froze up, maybe the lines, honestly don't know ...not something you wanna worry about when your hooking on a 30' 6 place hauler....but otherwise it was nice, just used it more in the winter than the summer
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by diggman08
i have the 2.5 AS up front and the AS 3" block in rear, which replaced the stock 2" . so giving it 1" of lift in rear... i LOVE it..!! to me it looks perfect...

theres 100's of f150 around my neighborhood leveled out... but mine is unique because i have the rear lift added

so does your truck still have some rake?
or is it leveled?
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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Air bags will be my next mod -

About freezing....
I drive a big truck, and on these there are air dryers as standard equipment. Moisture from the air will easily get into these sytems and it doesn't take much for them to freeze without the dryer.

Also, there is air line anti-freeze which we will use occasionally on our trailers in the cold weather - works great.

On a small system like the air bags for our F-150's, there isn't an easy way to get air line anti-freeze into the system. Without a compressor setup like ATOM has, I guess you could remove the schrader (sp?) valve, and somehow make a small funnel of sorts to pour some anti-freeze into the lines. Or, even with a compressor setup, you could install a valve anywhere in the line where you could add the anti-freeze. You would only have to do this a couple times per winter depending on how many times you air up/air down the system.

Myself, I would only be airing up/down during the summer when I pull my landscape trailer - system wouldn't be touched in the winter so I don't see having any problems myself.

http://www.gunk.com/CAT_M2832.asp
 
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Old Mar 28, 2009 | 12:24 PM
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PHS79 the aitllift actually gave you some lift when empty? i have approximately same sized quad (honda foreman 500 approx 650lbs)
Yes, they will give lift when empty, if you want. It all depends on the amount of air that you want to run in them. With only 5psi (minimum amount recommended) the truck sits just as it did when stock. With 15 psi, where I normally run them so that it does give a little lift and also that way the truck doesn't bulldog with only a few hundred lbs in the bed or a smaller trailer on the back. Plus 15psi will raise the rear about 3/4" when you are running empty.

I haven't had my bags or lines freeze up at all over the winter and we had -40F for almost a week. Although every fall I take the core out of the valve stem, then pump the bags up and deflate them fully a few times just to try and get any water out of the lines/bags that may be there.
 

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