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Old Aug 22, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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Truck in shop for recall and startup rattle

I dropped my pickup at the local dealership Wednesday night to get the brake recall taken care off and the startup rattle looked at. As i explained to the guy that this rattle sounds only during the first crank of the day and is especially loud in the morning and when wet. refer to this thread https://www.f150online.com/forums/20...up-rattle.html
I didn't get a call all day yesterday so I called my service adviser after lunch today and he talks to the mechanic and basically tells me that the noise was duplicated but he still did not have a diagnosis. I know they are doing the best they can but its frustrating not having my truck especially during this tropical storm. When i first dropped it off, the adviser seemed to think it was valves. I'm hoping that since i have documented evidence that this problem happened prior to the 3/36 running out that ford will step up. If not i do have a ESP.

Anybody else have a diagnosis for the startup rattle or any ideas i may throw at them?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 10:33 AM
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I took mine in for the same sound about a week after I bought it. It took a few of tries, but the service dept finally gave in when I showed up with the FSB about the cam phaser issue. It took about 4 days to have it done, but no more start up rattle.
 

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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 12:08 AM
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do you have a link to the cam phazer issue. i have the same issue that i would LOVE to get fixed while still under warranty
 
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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what is the brake recall.... i told them i had one on my 04 and they said there Was NO recall on that..
 
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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Ford dealershiip had my truck since last wed. and they have it narrowed down to either the timing chain tensioner or valves. I am waiting on my ESP provider to authorize repaire. Should know within the day. Will keep posted
 
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 12:25 PM
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what is the brake recall.... i told them i had one on my 04 and they said there Was NO recall on that..
Recall is only on the 05-06 f-150 and Mark LT with 5.4L 3V engine
 
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by o3sonicbluexlt
do you have a link to the cam phazer issue. i have the same issue that i would LOVE to get fixed while still under warranty

These are the bulletins I used:


Make : FORD Model : F150 Year : 2004
Manufacturer : FORD MOTOR COMPANY
Service Bulletin Num : 18091 Date of Bulletin: AUG 01, 2004
NHTSA Item Number: 10013241
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING:ENGINE
Summary:
TICKING NOISE FROM UPPER ENGINE. *TT


Make : FORD Model : F150 Year : 2004
Manufacturer : FORD MOTOR COMPANY
Service Bulletin Num : 18342 Date of Bulletin: DEC 01, 2004
NHTSA Item Number: 10014608
Component: ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING
Summary:
TICKING NOISE FROM UPPER ENGINE. *EH


and this is where I found it:

http://www.fordf150.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23566


I printed out that whole list and took it in with me with those specific bulletins highlighted. No questions asked from then on...
 

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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 07:31 PM
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my 2004 does it but only on select days... goes away in a few seconds.. runs great! And has always done it
 
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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My 06 has the same start up rattle. Once it goes away it runs great.
 
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BtownFord
Ford dealershiip had my truck since last wed. and they have it narrowed down to either the timing chain tensioner or valves. I am waiting on my ESP provider to authorize repaire. Should know within the day. Will keep posted
Who is your ESP provider ?
 
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 07:02 AM
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Who is your ESP provider ?
CostGuard. They have authorized any repair on the engine. Tech should start tearing into the engine today tho. If its not the valves i think they have to pull the engine to get to the timing chains? If thats the case a rep from the company has to come down and verify which will take 2 or 3 more days if not longer
 
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Old Aug 26, 2008 | 08:10 AM
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I thought startup rattle most most always the timing chain tensioner. If you do not have an oil filter with a leak down valve then it would for sure leak down or if it's o-ring was bad it would leak down. Either way it would be loose when you first start the truck then after a couple of seconds it would re-pressurize and not rattle anymore.
 
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Old Aug 27, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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Truck has been diagnosed as bad Cam Phasers. Not sure if its one side or both but said it would be 2 days of labor
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BtownFord
Truck has been diagnosed as bad Cam Phasers. Not sure if its one side or both but said it would be 2 days of labor
Any updates on this repair ? I have a 2004 with 16600 miles I get a start up rattle once in a while I do use MC 5W20 OIL and a MC 820 oil filter I also have a ford esp warrenty
 
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Old Aug 28, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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cam phaser for a startup rattle? ummmm no... cam phasers are noisy when the engine is HOT at idle. your truck sounds like it needs lash adjusters.
 
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