05 fuel injector problem

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I'm a newbie.
My 05 has been in shop 20 days.
They said 2 injectors stuck open.
Replaced 2 injectors changed oil and restarted, told me it was making noise from the bottom of engine and it was going to have to have an engine and Ford would pay.
A week after that they said Ford told them to change I believe he said cam timing sensor and the other two injectors on that side.
He originally told me two cylinders were down on compression 13 percent also.
This truck has 38000 miles and is out of factory warranty.
He said after the above work engine was not making noise but was still ideling rough.
Then they said he replaced other 4 injectors and plugs still rough idle.
Was taking exhaust apart next to check for plugged converter.
I have not heard back since,sounded like you guys may have some experience with Ford.
What do you think of all this or what should I tell them next I.m afraid I have serious problems and they are looking to blame this on something else not covered.
He originally told me new engine short block no problem now they seem to be lost.
This is a large Ford dealer.
Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Mike

 

You should have gotten a letter in the mail from Ford recently, saying that there's extended warranty coverage on the injectors and any related damages from stuck/faulty injectors. The coverage program number is 07M08 and it sounds like your dealer is being a bunch of scumbags.

 

Yea all 2005 owners have been getting the extended warranty letter you should not be liable for anything don't let them screw you HERE WE GO AGAIN

 

Letter looks like this....



- NCSU

 

Does this only pertain to the 05's?

 

I am looking at my letter now and it states "...certain 2005 Model Year F150's..."
You may want to check with the dealer (or Quintin) to see if there is a similar issue with the other model years.

Found more info on the back: FoMoCo Customer Relationship Center - 866.436.7332
Mon - Fri 8am-5pm your local time
site: www.ownerconnection.com

 

Yes. '04s got good injectors from the get go, you're alright.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

My guess is that they are waiting for the correct authorization to replace the engine. The original assumption of the technician was that the engine needs to be replaced. But before Ford is going to shell out thousands of dollars, they will have the technician tear down and check everything out before giving the go-ahead for the new block. Its a time consuming process.

Keep us updated - curious to see how it turns out and hope it turns out good for you.

 

It takes about 30 minutes tops to get prior approval for an engine for even the most crooked, half ***, slack jawed dealers on the planet.

This guy's dealer was trying to pull the wool over his eyes.

 

I had mine in right after I bought it and had the cam phasers checked - they did replace the cam position sensor but it did not change the rough idle/diesel sound. They had it for 3 days to do this..

That being said, a few months aga I had my #5 injector get stuck open and leave me on the side of the road - I think I'm starting to have another one go bad, I'll be sure to vent here in the event of a disaster!

 

True - but you also have to fix the problem the cheapest way possible. Otherwise they'd be replacing entire engine assemblies when it is not really needed. Might be cheaper to overhaul?? I don't know - was just trying to throw out a possibility.

 

Nah, in most cases in the name of customer satisfaction and to get the highest chance of a successful repair, it's easier just to put a short block or a black box long block in it. On vehicles with low miles (less than 12K or so), most times Ford will send out a complete, ready to drop in engine assembly straight from the assembly plant. Complete, from intake to oil pan, from flywheel to crank pulley. Some of them even have all the accessories and such on them.

 

Maybe I should give more insight.
I did get the letter and they are doing the things they have per that notice.
The truck began running real rough at idle one night ,run fine at road speed.
Acted like it was going to stall but never did. Shook from being so rough.
Took it to dealer next morning so I only drove it 25 or 30 miles in this condition.
Service advisor called back and said 2 injectors stuck open waiting on authorization.
2 days later said they replaced four on that side started it up and it was making noise and Ford told him to fax price for engine,then got into holidays
and waited week before contacting them said he had not heard back yet called me a couple of days later and said Ford told them to replace sensor on cam I don't know what that is and engine sounded ok no noise.
Said he wanted it to sit over weekend and start it Monday never heard back then I called and he said it was still ideling rough after all 8 injectors new plugs and oil change.
Still no communication so I called back today he says its ok when you give it gas idels at the proper rpm has no codes but idles so rough it shakes just like it did when I took it to them 21 days ago.
He has been pretty nice saying Ford is paying for this and he did give me an 08 F 150 after he said it needed engine and I've had it all along since the 2nd day.
I hate to get smart with them but I don't want to get screwed either.
Anybody have an idea what else could be bad.
Could it really have ruined the engine in such a short time.
Please advise and I will keep posting on this as it moves on.
I have showed up 3 times since it has been there it was outside once and inside the other two times but I never saw anything torn apart.
Thanks
Mike

 

I visited my truck yesterday and they have my engine parts laying across 2 bays.Ford finally okd the engine and sent one ,mechanic said it looked like it had been dropped from an airplane and block had crack in it.More wasted downtime.I took a bunch of pics but don't know how to post them here.
He said these injectors are junk and they have already replaced about 4 or 5 engines,why they have screwed around for 1 month today I don't know.Said a new engine is due Monday and he should have it done mid week.He said engine hydrolocked from too much fuel and bent three rods they also broke 3 plugs which had seized up in the head.He says it will be good as new but I'm going to worry about the truck till I trade it off.Only had 38k and I bought it new.
Anyone that has problems better park it quick or be ready for a fiasco
Thanks
Mike A