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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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No Plow on SuperCrew?

From what I've read here, you should not mount a plow on a SuperCrew truck? Is this true with the 5.5 Bed, or for all SuperCrews? Is it because of the weight of this particular cab configuration?.........
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:32 PM
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You can put a plow on anything. Just get a light-duty plow and you'll be fine. Heck if my little garden tractor with a 48" plow and push a 1 ton of snow in one swath, then a 6500 lb truck with 4x4 low should do more than that or equal to it.

It only hurts a truck when you do stupid stuff like:
-Trying to plow away a cement curb.
-Ramming into a snowbank (that will bend your frame, I don't care what truck you got...)
-Trying to move an entire snowbank at once.
etc... there are tons more stupid stuff I've seen people do to their plow trucks, thinking that they were never going to break their truck.

Proper ways to plow:
-Before I give you any tips... the best thing to do is be trained by an authorized plow person who sold you the plow. As there are a lot of do's and don'ts that most don't know about.
-When plowing large amounts of snow, and there is a confined space in a driveway, as soon as you approach the lawn area, start raising the plow blade. This will make an incline of snow. As you keep doing it, the snow will get packed and you will be able to go up instead of trying to push 3 ton blocks of snow.
-Backing is ALWAYS dangerous, when clearing a driveway, make sure there are no cars, pedestrians, etc crossing the road.
-Never go beyond the capabilities of your plow. Your truck might be able to handle it, but the plow and the frame of your truck sure can't.
-If you need to move a large pile of snow/ice, you move one by doing it in 1 to 2 foot sections with either side of the blade. This is called "chiping away method." Never think you can move it with using the entire blade length, as it could be a solid heap of ice that could damage the plow and truck.
-If you are plowing ice, be very careful, ice is very hard the plow blade edging, not to mention the plow itself.
-Never angle the plow blade and then ram snow, there is a slight chance the plow might break and send it into your bumper. Always ram snow with the plow blade in the 0 degree (or straight) position.
-Be careful of your surroundings, there could be pipes and other things in the way. If you plan on plowing other people's driveways, ALWAYS look on a clear day before saying "yes". There might be a pipe or fire hydrant in the middle of someone's driveway that the city/town snow plow might have covered up. Be alert!
-When going from foward and reverse, do NOT shift it in opposite directions while you are still moving. It is VERY hard on the transmission and drivelines. You will self-destruct the tranny in no time. What happens when you do that is it created high pressure inside of the transmission on certain valves that control foward and reverse. More that likely it will destroy the pump.
-Check for ditches and other severe inclines... you might get your truck stuck.
-Lastly, just use common sense while plowing. Most of all TAKE YOUR TIME! It's when you are in a rush is when you will get into the accident or bust your plow, or even worse, bend the frame on your new Ford.

Just think wisely.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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^^^ He gooooood!
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:37 PM
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Right. Ford says not to put a plow on them 1st off because Screws dont have the heavy payload option and 2nd because of the weight of the cab/box configuration.

But Ford has also said not to put a plow on 99-04 F250/350's with 7.3L or 6.0L diesels that are either CC/short box, CC/long box, or SC/long box. They didn't "make" a snow plow package for those trucks either, but there are how many tens of thousands of trucks in those configurations running around.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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I could be wrong but I also think they tell you not to plow with them because plows will void your warranty
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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I could be wrong but I also think they tell you not to plow with them because plows will void your warranty
Correct, but things like the Edge, intakes, exhaust also void parts of the warranty. Most of the time it all depends on how good of a dealer you have.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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when i was at the local ford garage, (not the one in town, they are complete a-holes, but thats a long story) a guy was flipping through a western plow book wanting a plow for his supercrew fx4. he was pissed because they wouldnt put a wider plow on his truck(he stated something about a liability issue). and the gentleman asked how to get rid of the squat in the front end from the plow. they told him to just throw a leveling kit on it. so i chime in asking about voiding my warranty and what not. no sir, its all covered was my answer. they even said that the plow wouldnt void anything either. so i guess it depends on your dealer. he just said it has to be the smaller plow designed for the truck and they had to install it, which was factored in the price of the plow anyway. i asked the fella at the counter are you sure i can level it and stuff 35's on it? he said sure why not, we get paid either way. needless to say this dealer has my business forever, very mod friendly and understands that people buy trucks to use them. i've seen dealers up here have brand new trucks with plows on them already.
 

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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ATOM
when i was at the local ford garage, (not the one in town, they are complete a-holes, but thats a long story) a guy was flipping through a western plow book wanting a plow for his supercrew fx4. he was pissed because they wouldnt put a wider plow on his truck(he stated something about a liability issue). and the gentleman asked how to get rid of the squat in the front end from the plow. they told him to just throw a leveling kit on it. so i chime in asking about voiding my warranty and what not. no sir, its all covered was my answer. they even said that the plow wouldnt void anything either. so i guess it depends on your dealer. he just said it has to be the smaller plow designed for the truck and they had to install it, which was factored in the price of the plow anyway. i asked the fella at the counter are you sure i can level it and stuff 35's on it? he said sure why not, we get paid either way. needless to say this dealer has my business forever, very mod friendly and understands that people buy trucks to use them.
Yeah, a small plow... what will void your warranty is when people put on a plow that is designed for a F550 on a F150 that is like huge... and they think they are getting the job done quicker... yeah they are... but at the expense of their truck.

At least your dealer is smart.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ATOM
when i was at the local ford garage, (not the one in town, they are complete a-holes, but thats a long story) a guy was flipping through a western plow book wanting a plow for his supercrew fx4. he was pissed because they wouldnt put a wider plow on his truck(he stated something about a liability issue). and the gentleman asked how to get rid of the squat in the front end from the plow. they told him to just throw a leveling kit on it. so i chime in asking about voiding my warranty and what not. no sir, its all covered was my answer. they even said that the plow wouldnt void anything either. so i guess it depends on your dealer. he just said it has to be the smaller plow designed for the truck and they had to install it, which was factored in the price of the plow anyway. i asked the fella at the counter are you sure i can level it and stuff 35's on it? he said sure why not, we get paid either way. needless to say this dealer has my business forever, very mod friendly and understands that people buy trucks to use them. i've seen dealers up here have brand new trucks with plows on them already.
This sounds alot like my dealer! They have never said anything about either of my dads F350's (1-7.3L and 1-6.0L) running chips, intakes, exhaust. When I had them do some small warranty stuff on my truck the owner of the dealership wanted to what I had done to it. A couple weeks later they had a 2 leveled out trucks with wheels/tires on them sitting there.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:42 PM
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But Ford has also said not to put a plow on 99-04 F250/350's with 7.3L or 6.0L diesels that are either CC/short box, CC/long box, or SC/long box. They didn't "make" a snow plow package for those trucks either, but there are how many tens of thousands of trucks in those configurations running around.
Yes they did... I own one.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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As long as your not plowing for commercial use you should be fine. Just don't be a cowboy and try to do the job in seconds. Take your time. Plowing is fun once you get the hang of it.

That was great advice Manual150!!
 

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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Before you opt to put a plow on your truck, look down the road a few years to when you'll want to trade it in. That plow may have a significant impact on the trade in value.

Many people don't bother to do this, but talk with your insurance company, a plow will likely pump up your insurance premiums.

The 3500 or so for a plow will buy you a decent yard truck.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Yes they did... I own one.
You must have a rare, rare truck then. Because I asked around at 3 different dealerships looking for a SC long box with plow prep, they said that they could find me one with a 5.4L or V10 but not the diesel. They said that Ford didn't make the plow prep option on those trucks until 05.

I also found this off a Superduty website:
The snowplow prep pkg was not available with the combo of 4x4 drivetrain, diesel engine and CrewCab body, or SuperCab longbed body, until the '05 model year. The reason was the max front GAWR of 5,200 pounds wasn't enough to support the heavy body with the 4x4 drivetrain combined with diesel engine and even the lighest snowplow.

You can sorta convert your own '99-'03 7.3L by replacing the front springs on a 4x4 PSD with code "X" front leaf springs. Ford will void the warranty on any pickup with a snowplow without the snowplow prep pkg, even if you have the code "X" front springs. But those 7.3Ls probably don't have much warranty left anyhow.

Because of that front GAWR problem, the SuperCab shorty PSD 4x4 with snowplow prep pkg was popular in snow country. So you should be able to find some of those available. But no CrewCabs or SuperCab longbeds.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PHS79
You must have a rare, rare truck then. Because I asked around at 3 different dealerships looking for a SC long box with plow prep, they said that they could find me one with a 5.4L or V10 but not the diesel. They said that Ford didn't make the plow prep option on those trucks until 05.

I also found this off a Superduty website:
Weird... All I know is that my Superduty does have the X code front springs, which are the snow plow front springs.
 
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 12:13 PM
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Why don't you just use your little John Deere lawn mower that you believe is a tractor?
 
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