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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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The owners manual says torque to 150 lbs. Why would any one want to torque to any thing Less? I think ford knows what the troque should be and I will be sticking to their specifications. You should also follow the torque sequence they show in the owners manual to prevent warping of the rotors. 150 lbs may seem like a lot but they specify that for a reason.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by powderburn2
The owners manual says torque to 150 lbs. Why would any one want to torque to any thing Less? I think ford knows what the troque should be and I will be sticking to their specifications. You should also follow the torque sequence they show in the owners manual to prevent warping of the rotors. 150 lbs may seem like a lot but they specify that for a reason.
LOL. . The owners manual also says you should only use their Motorcraft oil, do you?
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
LOL. . The owners manual also says you should only use their Motorcraft oil, do you?
No it states to use oil that meets Fords specifications, like Motorcraft.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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The torque values most likely came straight off of an engineering chart for the thread size, materials, and substrate. Ford ( any engineer would have, actually) almost certainly factored in a percentage of error for all the backyard engineers who know better. That being said, an opinion that 150 is too much is laughable.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 11:12 AM
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How many threads have you seen yet where someone said "I didn't torque to 150 and now my wheels fell off!?!?!"

I haven't seen one yet.

Take you truck to ANY tire place and have them rotate and torque the wheels back down... I'll bet 9out of 10 will NOT torque them to 150. That's a rediculus amount of torque to be applied to 6 lugs.

I've taken my wheels off ALOT since I've had my truck and every time I do.. the lugs are still VERY tight.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by khendrix2374
How many threads have you seen yet where someone said "I didn't torque to 150 and now my wheels fell off!?!?!"

I haven't seen one yet.

Take you truck to ANY tire place and have them rotate and torque the wheels back down... I'll bet 9out of 10 will NOT torque them to 150. That's a rediculus amount of torque to be applied to 6 lugs.

I've taken my wheels off ALOT since I've had my truck and every time I do.. the lugs are still VERY tight.
Don't even bother with these guys, apparently they know everything. I'm not worthy.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by TNC
The torque values most likely came straight off of an engineering chart for the thread size, materials, and substrate. Ford ( any engineer would have, actually) almost certainly factored in a percentage of error for all the backyard engineers who know better. That being said, an opinion that 150 is too much is laughable.
Thats right, theres always a factor of safety in there somewhere.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by khendrix2374
How many threads have you seen yet where someone said "I didn't torque to 150 and now my wheels fell off!?!?!"

I haven't seen one yet.

Take you truck to ANY tire place and have them rotate and torque the wheels back down... I'll bet 9out of 10 will NOT torque them to 150. That's a rediculus amount of torque to be applied to 6 lugs.

I've taken my wheels off ALOT since I've had my truck and every time I do.. the lugs are still VERY tight.
Yes watch how they do things at a tire store. Watch 3 different mechanics and you will see it done 3 different ways. One will torque with a torque wrench, although these are few and far between. Some will use torque sticks, although they seem to go by does the stick fit the lug nut rather than by any chart, and the rest, the most common, will just put it on as tight as they can get it with an air gun.
Been there, seen that at more than once.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumperMX113
LOL. . The owners manual also says you should only use their Motorcraft oil, do you?

Ummm, I use Trop artic 5W20 made by ConocoPhillips who by the way makes motorcraft oil. I dont know what that has to do with lugnut torque. Whats the big deal with torque, The manual says 150 lbs so why not torque to 150?
Should people not follow the rest of the maintenance schedule? the torque specification is there for a reason,same as the specs for heads, intakes, ect.
I would trust the factory spec before I would trust some jabronie making up their own torque specs and spewing them out on the internet just because they think the factor spec is to much. Internet experts are a dime a dozen, factory specs are factual proven numbers that have been rigorously tested.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by powderburn2
Ummm, I use Trop artic 5W20 made by ConocoPhillips who by the way makes motorcraft oil. I dont know what that has to do with lugnut torque. Whats the big deal with torque, The manual says 150 lbs so why not torque to 150?
Should people not follow the rest of the maintenance schedule? the torque specification is there for a reason,same as the specs for heads, intakes, ect.
I would trust the factory spec before I would trust some jabronie making up their own torque specs and spewing them out on the internet just because they think the factor spec is to much. Internet experts are a dime a dozen, factory specs are factual proven numbers that have been rigorously tested.
Hardly. I could go on and on about how you are completely wrong but I'm going to keep it short. I've never seen a wheel come the slightest bit loose torquing at 130 vs 150, not to mention with my aftermarket wheels the manufacture recommends 130 ft lbs vs the OEM's recommendation of 150 ft lbs. I'll go with what they say since they designed the wheel. I have seen wheel studs break when they were torqued to 150 ft lbs. I read a post the other day about someones rear studs breaking. I agree internet experts are a dime a dozen but so are the experts at the factory. I just don't see how anyone could try to make this a big deal because of someone not agreeing with something but to each their own but just because I don't want to continue this pointless debate, I'll admit you guys are right!
 
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Old Oct 1, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Hardly. I could go on and on about how you are completely wrong but I'm going to keep it short. I've never seen a wheel come the slightest bit loose torquing at 130 vs 150, not to mention with my aftermarket wheels the manufacture recommends 130 ft lbs vs the OEM's recommendation of 150 ft lbs. I'll go with what they say since they designed the wheel. I have seen wheel studs break when they were torqued to 150 ft lbs. I read a post the other day about someones rear studs breaking. I agree internet experts are a dime a dozen but so are the experts at the factory. I just don't see how anyone could try to make this a big deal because of someone not agreeing with something but to each their own but just because I don't want to continue this pointless debate, I'll admit you guys are right!
Um, If your wheel manufacturer recomends 130# then by all means torque to that. But on factory wheels go with the factory torque. My Dad owned a tire shop when I was a kid and I can tell you from experience I saw a lot more wheels ruined by coming loose than I did broken studs from tightening to factory specified torque.In fact, I never saw a stud break from being torqued properly. I did see a lot of broken studs caused by some bubba inbreed using an impact wrench to tighten everything down-But they were exeeding the factory specs by at least 50 to 100 lbs. And by the way, no one is making a big deal of this because you dont agree, it is because you are mis-informing the man. He specifically asked what they torque to. The owners manual plainly states 150# so that is the correct answer and it also makes you completly wrong. Here it is in black and white straight from the manual

WHEEL LUG NUT TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS
Retighten the lug nuts to the specified torque at 500 miles (800 km)
after any wheel disturbance (rotation, flat tire, wheel removal, etc.).
Bolt size Wheel lug nut torque*
M14 x 2.0 150lb.ft. 200N•m

* Torque specifications are for nut and bolt threads free of dirt and
rust. Use only Ford recommended replacement fasteners.
When a wheel is installed, always remove any corrosion, dirt or
foreign materials present on the mounting surfaces of the wheel
or the surface of the wheel hub, brake drum or brake disc that
contacts the wheel. Ensure that any fasteners that attach the rotor to
the hub are secured so they do not interfere with the mounting
surfaces of the wheel. Installing wheels without correct metal-to-metal
contact at the wheel mounting surfaces can cause the wheel nuts to
loosen and the wheel to come off while the vehicle is in motion,
resulting in loss of control.
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